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04 May 2011, 7:56 am

Now there we see a not unimportant distinction.

To say [may I shift the proposition, just to vary the monotony?] "Voting for Barack Obama is absurd" expresses an opinion that is possibly the poster's legitimate conclusion based on available evidence. The reader may legitimately address the issue with counterevidence or [as AG critiquing an excursus from me] questions as to the validity of the poster's reasoning.

Even if it be expressed with vulgarity [the "crap" that began this], I have no problem with such a statement. I may choose to reprimand the poster [language! there are ladies and fussy professors present] but the content is fine with me.

If the poster hands us "anyone who XXX is a mean spirited bitchface" [quote from another forum] I may feel this is a personal attack [and as pointed out elsewhere if anyone FEELS attacked the rules today say somebody DID attack him / her / it] and - not without some justification - complain.

But if one posts "opposition to Obama is racism" or "monotheists are atheists with a twist" or "trinitarian Christians worship three gods" - this is merely pathetic. After the first 20 hearings, we see that this is neither expression of an opinion - there is no thoughtful processing of data involved - nor a personal attack, since the one repeating it has no idea who he is talking to.

Rather, while not inoffensive, it is the pathetic kneejerk boilerplate of the Polack joke, or the fellow eighth graders who addressed me with the Name I do NOT Reveal. It is, I am sorry to say, simply a group identity shibboleth - "you are a Green Monkey and I am not."

Which is, I repeat, pathetic, because if ruveyn [for only one example] for all his three God forelock tugging is not just as much a Green Monkey as I am I will eat my copy of the Nicene Creed.



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04 May 2011, 8:26 am

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Of course the OP is flame bating. About 1/3 - 1/2 of all the threads started in this cesspool of a forum are flame bating one way or the other.
You sound bitter.


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04 May 2011, 8:29 am

It is legitimate to feel bitter even about the perceived inevitability of sunrise.

I think Raptor is over conservative or math challenged though. I would estimate the ratio as much higher.



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04 May 2011, 7:50 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Of course the OP is flame bating. About 1/3 - 1/2 of all the threads started in this cesspool of a forum are flame bating one way or the other.
You sound bitter.


No, not really bitter.
I think of the PPR forum about the same as a highschool cafeteria food fight. Messy and nasty but fun in a twisted way. :D



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04 May 2011, 7:52 pm

Philologos wrote:
It is legitimate to feel bitter even about the perceived inevitability of sunrise.

I think Raptor is over conservative or math challenged though. I would estimate the ratio as much higher.


Yeah, that was a conservative figure. It's probably more like 2/3 - 3/4 or better lately.



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04 May 2011, 7:59 pm

Raptor wrote:
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Raptor wrote:
Of course the OP is flame bating. About 1/3 - 1/2 of all the threads started in this cesspool of a forum are flame bating one way or the other.
You sound bitter.


No, not really bitter.
I think of the PPR forum about the same as a highschool cafeteria food fight. Messy and nasty but fun in a twisted way. :D


You're just mad because you're always targeted with the mustard sodden bread balls


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04 May 2011, 8:14 pm

Yucch. They did not do that in any cafeterias I frequented. I hate mustard.



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04 May 2011, 8:18 pm

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Yucch. They did not do that in any cafeterias I frequented. I hate mustard.


I just thought of it actually, because I would definitely whip a few in Raptor's direction at any opportunity after he posted this a few months ago to auntblabby:

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Shove you back in your locker? Someone needs to shove you back in the closet and throw in a few handfuls of Zyklon-B.


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf154464-0-75.html

He edited what his original post said (unsurprisingly) but you can see myself and a few others quoted him so he can't really attempt to weasel out of it


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04 May 2011, 10:28 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Philologos wrote:
Yucch. They did not do that in any cafeterias I frequented. I hate mustard.


I just thought of it actually, because I would definitely whip a few in Raptor's direction at any opportunity after he posted this a few months ago to auntblabby:

Raptor wrote:
Shove you back in your locker? Someone needs to shove you back in the closet and throw in a few handfuls of Zyklon-B.


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf154464-0-75.html

He edited what his original post said (unsurprisingly) but you can see myself and a few others quoted him so he can't really attempt to weasel out of it


At this point I wouldn't even bother to weasle out of it. I've already gotten my "knock it off and be nice" PM from the mod back then so the cat's pretty much out of the bag.
That was in another forum (News and Current Events) anyway, but if you want to dredge it up we'll go there.



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04 May 2011, 10:33 pm

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Vigilans wrote:
Philologos wrote:
Yucch. They did not do that in any cafeterias I frequented. I hate mustard.


I just thought of it actually, because I would definitely whip a few in Raptor's direction at any opportunity after he posted this a few months ago to auntblabby:

Raptor wrote:
Shove you back in your locker? Someone needs to shove you back in the closet and throw in a few handfuls of Zyklon-B.


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf154464-0-75.html

He edited what his original post said (unsurprisingly) but you can see myself and a few others quoted him so he can't really attempt to weasel out of it


At this point I wouldn't even bother to weasle out of it. I've already gotten my "knock it off and be nice" PM from the mod back then so the cat's pretty much out of the bag.
That was in another forum (News and Current Events) anyway, but if you want to dredge it up we'll go there.


I fail to see what it being in N&CE has to do with anything. If you want to 'go there' you can PM me, I'm not interested in derailing this thread with you trying to justify those words (as if there is a way to justify them). The topic of that thread is completely irrelevant to that comment and this discussion anyway. I'm actually very disappointed you ever made it as otherwise you've said some pretty intelligent things, I'm just not inclined to forget hateful and needless insults towards good people


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04 May 2011, 11:14 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Philologos wrote:
Yucch. They did not do that in any cafeterias I frequented. I hate mustard.


I just thought of it actually, because I would definitely whip a few in Raptor's direction at any opportunity after he posted this a few months ago to auntblabby:

Raptor wrote:
Shove you back in your locker? Someone needs to shove you back in the closet and throw in a few handfuls of Zyklon-B.


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf154464-0-75.html

He edited what his original post said (unsurprisingly) but you can see myself and a few others quoted him so he can't really attempt to weasel out of it


At this point I wouldn't even bother to weasle out of it. I've already gotten my "knock it off and be nice" PM from the mod back then so the cat's pretty much out of the bag.
That was in another forum (News and Current Events) anyway, but if you want to dredge it up we'll go there.


I fail to see what it being in N&CE has to do with anything. If you want to 'go there' you can PM me, I'm not interested in derailing this thread with you trying to justify those words (as if there is a way to justify them). The topic of that thread is completely irrelevant to that comment and this discussion anyway. I'm actually very disappointed you ever made it as otherwise you've said some pretty intelligent things, I'm just not inclined to forget hateful and needless insults towards good people


I'm not going to justify it.
I don't NEED to justify it becuuase I've already gotten my TOS warning for that. I'm not going to BS my way out of speeding ticket after I've paid it.........duh.
You must think you're important to me to think that your disapointment in me is going to cause me any loss of sleep..........NOT!



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04 May 2011, 11:17 pm

Raptor wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Philologos wrote:
Yucch. They did not do that in any cafeterias I frequented. I hate mustard.


I just thought of it actually, because I would definitely whip a few in Raptor's direction at any opportunity after he posted this a few months ago to auntblabby:

Raptor wrote:
Shove you back in your locker? Someone needs to shove you back in the closet and throw in a few handfuls of Zyklon-B.


http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf154464-0-75.html

He edited what his original post said (unsurprisingly) but you can see myself and a few others quoted him so he can't really attempt to weasel out of it


At this point I wouldn't even bother to weasle out of it. I've already gotten my "knock it off and be nice" PM from the mod back then so the cat's pretty much out of the bag.
That was in another forum (News and Current Events) anyway, but if you want to dredge it up we'll go there.


I fail to see what it being in N&CE has to do with anything. If you want to 'go there' you can PM me, I'm not interested in derailing this thread with you trying to justify those words (as if there is a way to justify them). The topic of that thread is completely irrelevant to that comment and this discussion anyway. I'm actually very disappointed you ever made it as otherwise you've said some pretty intelligent things, I'm just not inclined to forget hateful and needless insults towards good people


I'm not going to justify it.
I don't NEED to justify it becuuase I've already gotten my TOS warning for that. I'm not going to BS my way out of speeding ticket after I've paid it.........duh.
You must think you're important to me to think that your disapointment in me is going to cause me any loss of sleep..........NOT!


No, I really don't care what you think about me actually. I was being honest, whether you appreciate the fact that I think you are capable of some rational thought is up to you.


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