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The local people there resent it. I've known people who've lived in Spain for ten years and not picked up a single word of Spanish - which obviously causes problems when dealing with the state/bureaucracy, limits their job opportunities, friendships and increases alienation from the country you live in. The Spanish put up with it but they don't like it, and their culture isn't that different to ours really.

I can tell you that the sort of people you meet in expat bars in Spain are the sort of people you'd avoid at all costs if you could.

And, yes, I agree with you about the gangsters. They should be sent back forthwith. As should Spanish gangsters and so on.

I suspect if Gibraltar was larger they would live there. Gibraltar is not much bigger than my home town in area.

The Irish assimilated. Some Mexicans have too, and the issue will cease to exist once the border is secure and the rest here legally assimilate.

Cleaver derailment of the subject of Antiziganism, now getting back to the topic. Done's the Channel 4 (UK TV) 'documentary' series "Big Fat Gypsy Weddings" have any elements of antiziganism in it?

Yup. Similar problems here which will slowly heal with time if/when the powers that be actually allow us to have control over our own borders again.

The Polish sometimes treat me with suspicion when I mention leaving the EU; I respond by asking them if they would like it if what is happening here in the UK were to happen in Poland. They go very quiet when I say that. My Polish friend (who is pretty openly socially democratic) hasn't got a nice word to say about Muslims and is quite open about it but hates Law and Justice with a passion. He suggested that people in Poland would be far, far more hostile to the sort of South Asian immigration that we've seen here and that Muslims generally would receive a lot more abuse from people. On a trip to Poland a few years ago, they made it quite clear that it wasn't safe to go out in the neighbourhood where we were staying. In the larger cities and in the countryside, yes, but not in that neighbourhood. Think they had a big chav scum problem.

Interesting, that. I should mention that Law and Justice was very socially and religiously conservative and homophobic at the time of the EU's accession. I believe they've moderated their stance a bit; they're in the ECR with the Tories. (Having said that, some of the lot in Labour's group are pretty unsavoury. It's the same with almost all the EU groupings.)

Polish people would have the same rights as any other foreign nationals after we have left the EU. I personally favour a path of British citizenship for them. If they refuse and prefer to be Polish with longterm residency in the UK, that's fine - but they can be sent back there if they commit crimes here in this country as happens with most other civilised Western nations. (And the same should be true of British criminals in Poland.)

Oh, antiziganism? To be honest I don't know a whole lot about the subject. What I do know is that gypsies who simply turned up on a piece of land here were politely told that they weren't welcome and so off they went.

Securing a land border may turn out to be more difficult than regulating overseas travel.

some British right-wing racist whined........ 'Pro-gypsy."....... One american Right-wing individaualist..... somewhat amused at the sheer anachronism....... alot more racism........ cesspool of xenophobic ethnic nationalism and racism ......... wars ............ Romani facing radical poverty ......... African-Americans in USA ghettos ........... have problems in US ...... stain ...... piss off Euro-racists.

french racism ........... willful ignoramus.

LOL

I don't know much about the issues involving gypsies moving to other European countries, but I have noticed a pattern that politicians that are normally politically correct and multicultural (by US standards) tend to end up having a problem with them not too long after their arrival and kick them out.

Good point there. If you don't agree with a multiculturalist, you're a Nazi. If you're not a Nazi, you're a fascist. If you're not a fascist, you're a racist. If you're not a racist, you're a xenophobe. If you're not a xenophobe, you're a bigot. If you're not a bigot (and anyone who disagrees with a multiculturalist must be a bigot - funny how their opinions are never bigoted) then you're still a bigot. If, by some chance you're not a bigot, then you're stupid. And if you're not stupid according to them, you're a multiculturalist.

Tequila, antiziganism is hostility, prejudice or racism directed at the Romani people!

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... tiziganism

As I say, it depends what they're up to for me. I can only take people as I find them.

The Polish people I've known has been a generally positive experience for me. Yes, they're somewhat self-centred and obsessed with makeup, and I probably wouldn't want to visit Poland again for a lengthy period of time, but they're nice enough. Some bad people, most I'm indifferent to but a few were very nice. So neutral on the whole for the people but the food is mostly very good. Rest of my family hates Polish food with a passion though.

reading posts like the first poster here with the Jewish guy for his picture make me wonder who the real bigots and dictators really our in our society..

Just because one group is facing poverty doesn't make it another group's problem to magically fix everything and make it all better. It wouldn't work out for them long term anyway because they aren't exactly known for their business skills...okay, legitimate business skills.

I would like to remind people that not the entirety of the french populace thinks nicely of Mr.Sarokzy. I for one would gladly vote the left in office. But sadly i'm usually too busy with life in Canada to read a lot about what goes on in France, i do keep myself informed though. <.< I just don't like LePen or Sarkozy's UMP at the moment. <.< (and since i have my french citizenship, i can vote overseas! )

Is getting to the nearest French territory easy for where you are in Canada? Is going there like being back in France? I am, of course, referring to Saint Pierre and Miquelon.

The people resident there have similar rights to yourself, don't they?

In a segment dedicated to Euroracism it might be time [I believe in the balanced approach] to point out that racism is as close to a human cultural universal as we have [you should hear what the Luo say about the Kikuyu and vice versa]

It is of course one manifestation of the Green Monkey instinct with which most Wrong Planeteers seem to be well acquainted. And which some of us have ourselves enacted.

Uh, i can vote from the nearest vote office that's been established by the french consulate, i guess? =/ In Montréal, where a good portion of frenchmen reside, it's usually the private french college in Outremont where i used to go, called Stanislas.

The people of St-Pierre & Miquelon ARE french, because it is an overseas department of France. A few other islands are also considered as such. And yes, they do vote in France's presidential elections.

As far as i know, ANYONE that can prove to have the slightest bit of french descent can claim his french citizenship. I don't know how far back it goes, but let's say 2-3 generations. I for one, am the son of a frenchman and a local french canadian mother. My father had to seek refuge in Montreal with his family during the second World War, since his dad (that is, my grandfather, was an officer in the french army).