Page 2 of 3 [ 37 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next


Is this irrationaly, deliberately contrarian line of reasining, unbecoming of a Strident Atheist?
Yes! 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Certainly! 33%  33%  [ 1 ]
Undeniably! 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Most Definitely! 67%  67%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 3

Orwell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Aug 2007
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,518
Location: Room 101

15 May 2011, 9:09 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Well, Orwell is known for debating vegans. Sometimes, though, his hatred of non-meat diets is compromised by irrationality. Are these really qualities we expect in our Most STRIDENT Atheist?

Excuse me, but we know that all truly Strident Atheists eat babies, which are a form of meat.

Image


_________________
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


Master_Pedant
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Mar 2009
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,903

15 May 2011, 9:09 pm

Orwell wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
It looks like many of the people here lack basic reading comprehension. If they possessed it they`d realize it was a glitch in VISTA, not M_P.

That you are still using such a flawed piece of technology as Windows Vista should disqualify you from the race outright.


While I`m sure a THEIST like you has all the time in the world, a serious strident atheist such as myself spends far too much time advancing the causes of anti-theism to install Linux.


_________________
http://www.voterocky.org/


Orwell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Aug 2007
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,518
Location: Room 101

15 May 2011, 9:11 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Poster Orwell is one of the smartest posters on this board.

ruveyn


As one poster frequently states, intelligence does not necessarily entail above average rationality.

This is true, but a background in the natural sciences and formal mathematics implies a certain level of rationality. Even if I did not inherently possess Vulcan-like rationality, the coursework and research I have been involved in would have beaten it into me by now. You, on the other hand, are pursuing a social sciences degree, where far less of a premium is placed on rigorous logical thought. Further still, you have only just begun your university education, while I have nearly completed mine. Can we trust an inexperienced, unvetted, and unprepared candidate to lead us? Surely not!


_________________
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


Orwell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Aug 2007
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,518
Location: Room 101

15 May 2011, 9:13 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
It looks like many of the people here lack basic reading comprehension. If they possessed it they`d realize it was a glitch in VISTA, not M_P.

That you are still using such a flawed piece of technology as Windows Vista should disqualify you from the race outright.


While I`m sure a THEIST like you has all the time in the world, a serious strident atheist such as myself spends far too much time advancing the causes of anti-theism to install Linux.

Oh please. Linux Mint should be easy enough for any bipedal ape to install. And at the absolute least, upgrade to Windows 7. It comes with 30% less fail.


_________________
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


psychohist
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,623
Location: Somerville, MA, USA

15 May 2011, 9:13 pm

Orwell is sometimes irrational, but not nearly enough to win the strident atheist contest.



Awesomelyglorious
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,157
Location: Omnipresent

15 May 2011, 9:17 pm

Orwell wrote:
This is true, but a background in the natural sciences and formal mathematics implies a certain level of rationality. Even if I did not inherently possess Vulcan-like rationality, the coursework and research I have been involved in would have beaten it into me by now. You, on the other hand, are pursuing a social sciences degree, where far less of a premium is placed on rigorous logical thought. Further still, you have only just begun your university education, while I have nearly completed mine. Can we trust an inexperienced, unvetted, and unprepared candidate to lead us? Surely not!

Right, obviously:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duane_Gish
I mean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Sarfati
it isn't as if
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dembski
a science student
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Humphreys
could be
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Behe
a sh***y
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_W ... n_advocate)
thinker
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/ar ... purdom.asp

In any case, I actually have my degree already.



Awesomelyglorious
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,157
Location: Omnipresent

15 May 2011, 9:18 pm

psychohist wrote:
Orwell is sometimes irrational, but not nearly enough to win the strident atheist contest.

So, you're saying that you plan on winning?



Orwell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Aug 2007
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,518
Location: Room 101

15 May 2011, 9:19 pm

But it's in economics, and economics is not a science.


_________________
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


Awesomelyglorious
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,157
Location: Omnipresent

15 May 2011, 9:25 pm

Orwell wrote:
But it's in economics, and economics is not a science.

Your point? Are you trying to say that anybody who does not currently have a degree in science is not worthy of being a strident atheist? Are you saying that a figure like Christopher Hitchens cannot be strident or atheist? Are you saying that all of the atheist philosophers are just not really atheist? I mean, Orwell, if you are going to say that all of these people, with or without degrees, cannot be atheists unless they have a BS in science, then I really think that you are wrong for the movement. Atheism isn't just something for the elite, but rather the recognition that there is no God, is something that everybody in every field of study, or even those who cannot afford college, or who even lack the competency for college have every ability to recognize.

Orwell, your elitism undermines something basic, and that is the fact that the non-existence of sexually controlling and emotionally abusive Gods is a basic truth for everybody in society, not something for a few physicists and biologists to accept.



Orwell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Aug 2007
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,518
Location: Room 101

15 May 2011, 9:35 pm

Even among a movement intended for the masses, we do not put the hoi polloi in charge, but rather we desire the elites to stand up and take responsibility as leaders. Elitism in who would make an appropriate leader does not equate to elitism in who can be a part of the movement, and the failure to make such a distinction indicates a pervasive lack of logical thought. Do we need someone so irrational and logically challenged to represent us? I think not, my friends.


_________________
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH


Awesomelyglorious
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,157
Location: Omnipresent

15 May 2011, 9:45 pm

Orwell wrote:
Even among a movement intended for the masses, we do not put the hoi polloi in charge, but rather we desire the elites to stand up and take responsibility as leaders. Elitism in who would make an appropriate leader does not equate to elitism in who can be a part of the movement, and the failure to make such a distinction indicates a pervasive lack of logical thought. Do we need someone so irrational and logically challenged to represent us? I think not, my friends.

And yet, elitism going across every element of a person's attitude shows that they are out of touch with the people.

And yet, elitism that stands against the intellectual giants who have most stridently attacked these false ideas, and who have been successful leaders is brain dead. I mean, by Orwell's standards, even if Christopher Hitchens came up again to seek to be a leader for atheism, he ought to be rejected. Does this *really* make sense?

Finally, given that there are many significant atheists who do lack degrees, who do have degrees outside of science, and so on and so forth, my point isn't just membership, but rather leadership. Orwell's elitism stands against his recognition of the value of the atheists in the movement, and of people who are more literary, or who do not have college degrees for life-issues or financial hardship. Orwell runs a campaign on contempt for his voters.



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

15 May 2011, 9:51 pm

As a completely neutral Atheist party, I was contracted by the Strident Atheist Oversight Committee to do background checks on all of the candidates.
I regret to announce, my dedicated research has led to some sobering discoveries, friends

Recently unearthed excerpt from Strident Atheist Archival Audio Recordings (1)

Inquiry Committee:"Well, Mr Orwell, we need to rectify this issue, immediately: Are you in fact a Scientologist agent provocateur?"

Orwell: "Yes. Yes, I am"

Recently unearthed excerpt from Strident Atheist Deep Cover Intelligence Archival Recordings (2)

Master_Pedant: "Do you have it, Inuyasha?"

Inuyasha: "Yes, of course, master! hisss! !"

Master_Pedant: Excellent. With the Necronomicon finally under my control, I can finally succeed in reviving long dead threads that will piss off my opponents. You and your Theist friends have done me a great favor today. I will not forget, when your new organization begins its assault on the Strident Atheist compound; and you have my assurances, I will have undermined the security. Anything to get out of this cold and boring hellhole of a place that is Winnipeg

*The sound of fading footsteps as M_P heads back to his 1972 Ford Pinto.*

It seems there is in fact a Theist-Scientologist conspiracy at play to undermine the leadership of the Strident Atheists. This leaves but one candidate we who can Know and Trust in their Uncompromising Stridency will ensure this corruption is stopped at the source

This has been a presentation of the completely neutral, utterly impartial and partially un-bribed Strident Atheist Oversight Committee


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


ryan93
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Apr 2009
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,315
Location: Galway, Ireland

15 May 2011, 9:56 pm

Quote:
Master_Pedant: Excellent. With the Necronomicon finally under my control, I can finally succeed in reviving long dead threads that will piss off my opponents. You and your Theist friends have done me a great favor today. I will not forget, when your new organization begins its assault on the Strident Atheist compound; and you have my assurances, I will have undermined the security. Anything to get out of this cold and boring hellhole of a place that is Winnipeg


I could never vote for someone who believes in Cthulhu! Edit him out of the photo's, MP is an enemy of the Party!


_________________
The scientist only imposes two things, namely truth and sincerity, imposes them upon himself and upon other scientists - Erwin Schrodinger

Member of the WP Strident Atheists


Awesomelyglorious
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,157
Location: Omnipresent

15 May 2011, 10:01 pm

Vigilans wrote:
I will not forget, when your new organization begins its assault on the Strident Atheist compound; and you have my assurances, I will have undermined the security. Anything to get out of this cold and boring hellhole of a place that is Winnipeg[/i]

Wow, I did not know that M_P was selling out the Strident Atheists to the Theists. Thank you completely neutral, utterly impartial, and partially un-bribed Strident Atheist Oversight Committee! :wink:



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 37
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

15 May 2011, 10:02 pm

ryan93 wrote:
Quote:
Master_Pedant: Excellent. With the Necronomicon finally under my control, I can finally succeed in reviving long dead threads that will piss off my opponents. You and your Theist friends have done me a great favor today. I will not forget, when your new organization begins its assault on the Strident Atheist compound; and you have my assurances, I will have undermined the security. Anything to get out of this cold and boring hellhole of a place that is Winnipeg


I could never vote for someone who believes in Cthulhu! Edit him out of the photo's, MP is an enemy of the Party!


My thoughts exactly. He believes in the supernatural! Further evidence (underlined):

Recently unearthed excerpt from Strident Atheist Archival Audio Recordings [3 AM McDonald's Drive-through] (3)

Master_Pedant: "Yeah I'll have a... number two trio. Yeah, coke to drink. No cheese."

*Eases 1972 Ford Pinto up to serving window, making exchange*

Master_Pedant: "Ah Jesus Christ, I asked for no cheese for f***s sake!"


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


psychohist
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,623
Location: Somerville, MA, USA

15 May 2011, 10:21 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
psychohist wrote:
Orwell is sometimes irrational, but not nearly enough to win the strident atheist contest.

So, you're saying that you plan on winning?

I will trust the result of the vote in selecting someone irrational.