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21 May 2011, 2:15 pm

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Here's proof the converse is true -

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21 May 2011, 2:37 pm

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What's that old saying? Cause is not correlation, or the other way around.

Atheists happen to exist in more liberal cultures. I can conceive of an atheist society that had repressive attitudes toward sex.

PS. That picture is brilliant.


Correlation does not equal causation.

I've met some rather prudish Atheists. I've also met some extremely religious prostitutes. The point made by the OP makes zero sense to me.


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21 May 2011, 2:39 pm

ryan93 wrote:
Here's proof the converse is true -

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:oops: :lol: I was going to GIMP E.A.Blair's face over a hot supermodel at some point, but this is funny too.

For the record, though, I am not morbidly obese. Last Thursday I biked 30 miles and did 150 push-ups, so I am in at least decent shape.


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21 May 2011, 4:33 pm

I think I remember reader somewhere that people who bike a lot have a diminished sex life.



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21 May 2011, 5:13 pm

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It is the same old story, find a random correlation between two different things and then attempt to explain why one causes the other.

Could it be that having a better sex life is actually what causes atheism? You get so sexed that don't need to believe in god.

Well... the problem is that explaining why those who LEAVE the faith begin to have better sex lives isn't explained by the "sex causes unbelief" idea very well. Hopefully they used proper controls. As well though, things like "sexual guilt" seems to be straight-forwardly caused by religion, and leaving religion would very straight-forwardly cause a loss of the guilt.

In any case, clear causative chains go one way and not the other, and a cause has to exist.
It could also be that there is a third thing which causes both atheism and a better sex life. Correlation != causation applies even to things that we like. Even though you are right that it makes sense that way, even though something making sense is not enough.


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21 May 2011, 5:15 pm

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For the record, though, I am not morbidly obese. Last Thursday I biked 30 miles and did 150 push-ups, so I am in at least decent shape.

Or a robot. Take your pick.



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21 May 2011, 7:29 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
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For the record, though, I am not morbidly obese. Last Thursday I biked 30 miles and did 150 push-ups, so I am in at least decent shape.

Or a robot. Take your pick.


Cannot a robot be in decent shape? Who wants a poorly maintained robot?

My robot has a lube job every 3 months whatever its mileage.



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21 May 2011, 7:30 pm

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I think I remember reader somewhere that people who bike a lot have a diminished sex life.


Bike seats and testicles are essentially mortal enemies


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21 May 2011, 7:58 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
It could also be that there is a third thing which causes both atheism and a better sex life. Correlation != causation applies even to things that we like. Even though you are right that it makes sense that way, even though something making sense is not enough.

It could be, but the problem we then get into is whether or not we could ever prove causation. There could ALWAYS be an additional variable that we have failed to track, or just some fact about reality that undermines our framework. I mean, induction by its nature never leads to definite conclusions.

As it stands though, we are justified in this case to believe a cause is at work.



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21 May 2011, 8:29 pm

All right on.


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21 May 2011, 8:31 pm

I read a long time ago in attempting to prove something (a porn shop?) of his client's did in fact meet a Mormon town's "Community Standard" as far as obscenity laws were to be interpreted, a lawyer subpoenaed the cable info from the company, for all the local Mormon-owned hotels, and he found that not only did they watch as much kinky stuff as anyone else, they watched maybe THREE TIMES as much as whatever the national average was.


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22 May 2011, 12:55 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
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For the record, though, I am not morbidly obese. Last Thursday I biked 30 miles and did 150 push-ups, so I am in at least decent shape.

Or a robot. Take your pick.

And being a robot would somehow be less awesome?

Besides, I know that you, for one, welcome your new robot overlord.


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22 May 2011, 1:25 pm

Wait... ok... the sexiest philosophy and those having the best sex on average is a different issue. The 'sexiest' philosophy is usually a pejorative for the one that's completely wrong but goes on emotional/epic/heroic appeal where people get the chance to indulge delusions of grandeur (like blowing yourself up in a public place for 72 virgins or believing that the evils of the world can be overcome by the poor overcoming and destroying the rich).


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22 May 2011, 1:59 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Wait... ok... the sexiest philosophy and those having the best sex on average is a different issue. The 'sexiest' philosophy is usually a pejorative for the one that's completely wrong but goes on emotional/epic/heroic appeal where people get the chance to indulge delusions of grandeur (like blowing yourself up in a public place for 72 virgins or believing that the evils of the world can be overcome by the poor overcoming and destroying the rich).

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22 May 2011, 3:12 pm

Lol, add phallic symbols to that list.


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22 May 2011, 9:23 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Ok, joke title, but not joke issue:

http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta ... etter.html

Apparently(and probably as no surprise), atheists have better sex lives. They feel more satisfied by the sex they have. Feel less guilt about sex. Give better sex ed. Basically, atheists are more comfortable with sex. So, common sense is vindicated by study, and another sin of religion is exposed in a clearer manner. In any case, what's sexier than a person comfortable with their sexuality?

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The Sextheist topic

This is all my fault. :twisted: I wrote AG a few days ago and told him that he made atheism seem sexy. :lol:


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