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21 May 2011, 8:51 pm

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There is no empirical evidence for the existence of a "soul". What is it, where is it and how does it operate. How can I detect your soul or you detect my soul. What is the process?


are you alive? if you answer yes, then you have a soul.


All being alive means is that your nervous system is working. There is no such thing as a soul. It's called a brain.


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21 May 2011, 9:19 pm

SammichEater wrote:
All being alive means is that your nervous system is working. There is no such thing as a soul. It's called a brain.
Someone has common sense.


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22 May 2011, 12:19 am

IF you believe in a soul that lives on after physical death,

AND IF you believe in a "heaven" and a "hell,"

THEN YES, suffering can continue after death.



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22 May 2011, 2:04 am

Shouldn't this be in PPR instead?



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22 May 2011, 4:56 am

rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
Jutty wrote:
are you alive? if you answer yes, then you have a soul.


There are alot of animals that are alive and experience emotions, but not one of them has ever shown any evidence of having a soul. It's not even possible to prove that you have a soul, so you can't make any affirmations.

All we know for sure is that every single emotion that we experience is the result of neurotransmitters and hormones. The soul is an anachronism that was only relevant when we didn't have scientific knowledge to explain emotion.


i can prove that i have a soul. ... ..... .. i have a soul. you're sure you didn't sell yours.......?? :lol:
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22 May 2011, 7:05 am

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i can prove that i have a soul. ... ..... .. i have a soul. you're sure you didn't sell yours.......?? :lol:
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Maybe you are the only one.

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22 May 2011, 7:43 am

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i can prove that i have a soul.


As this is the science and technology forum rather than PPR I'm sure we are all interested in seeing your scientific proof. However, if you want to spout mumbo-jumbo fantasy then maybe you'd better save it for PPR.


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22 May 2011, 8:25 am

rocknrollslc wrote:
rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
Jutty wrote:
are you alive? if you answer yes, then you have a soul.


There are alot of animals that are alive and experience emotions, but not one of them has ever shown any evidence of having a soul. It's not even possible to prove that you have a soul, so you can't make any affirmations.

All we know for sure is that every single emotion that we experience is the result of neurotransmitters and hormones. The soul is an anachronism that was only relevant when we didn't have scientific knowledge to explain emotion.


i can prove that i have a soul. ... ..... .. i have a soul. you're sure you didn't sell yours.......?? :lol:
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yeah that's not funny. I don't believe in metaphysical and religious BS. Emotions are products of the brain and endocrine system, not the soul as uneducated people often say.


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22 May 2011, 10:12 am

Well!
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That... But without the consensus of it being there.
Basicly.. If you where to die.... NOTHING. Awareness of time is nill. So if you get reincarnated you would be (as far as awareness goes) be reincarnated straight away.



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22 May 2011, 2:37 pm

TallyMan wrote:
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i can prove that i have a soul.


As this is the science and technology forum rather than PPR I'm sure we are all interested in seeing your scientific proof. However, if you want to spout mumbo-jumbo fantasy then maybe you'd better save it for PPR.


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22 May 2011, 8:03 pm

Being human is highly overrated I think. You can easily get hurt, injured and killed and you have to work damn hard for a living. I think I'd rather be an electron, proton or other fundamental particle. Then no one can hurt, injure or even see me.



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22 May 2011, 8:16 pm

rasol wrote:
Being human is highly overrated I think. You can easily get hurt, injured and killed and you have to work damn hard for a living. I think I'd rather be an electron, proton or other fundamental particle. Then no one can hurt, injure or even see me.


Unfortunate, there is no reason to assume you can be a fundamental particle.


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22 May 2011, 9:05 pm

anima is the latin word for soul



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23 May 2011, 1:57 am

rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
rocknrollslc wrote:
rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
Jutty wrote:
are you alive? if you answer yes, then you have a soul.


There are alot of animals that are alive and experience emotions, but not one of them has ever shown any evidence of having a soul. It's not even possible to prove that you have a soul, so you can't make any affirmations.

All we know for sure is that every single emotion that we experience is the result of neurotransmitters and hormones. The soul is an anachronism that was only relevant when we didn't have scientific knowledge to explain emotion.


i can prove that i have a soul. ... ..... .. i have a soul. you're sure you didn't sell yours.......?? :lol:
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yeah that's not funny. I don't believe in metaphysical and religious BS. Emotions are products of the brain and endocrine system, not the soul as uneducated people often say.


wow thanks for the info. i'm well aware of the scientific answer for emotions, believe it or not. :thumright: our definitions of the word "prove" are obviously very different



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23 May 2011, 3:53 am

rocknrollslc wrote:
rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
rocknrollslc wrote:
rabidmonkey4262 wrote:
Jutty wrote:
are you alive? if you answer yes, then you have a soul.


There are alot of animals that are alive and experience emotions, but not one of them has ever shown any evidence of having a soul. It's not even possible to prove that you have a soul, so you can't make any affirmations.

All we know for sure is that every single emotion that we experience is the result of neurotransmitters and hormones. The soul is an anachronism that was only relevant when we didn't have scientific knowledge to explain emotion.


i can prove that i have a soul. ... ..... .. i have a soul. you're sure you didn't sell yours.......?? :lol:
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yeah that's not funny. I don't believe in metaphysical and religious BS. Emotions are products of the brain and endocrine system, not the soul as uneducated people often say.


wow thanks for the info. i'm well aware of the scientific answer for emotions, believe it or not. :thumright: our definitions of the word "prove" are obviously very different


The idea of the human "soul" should be a distant memory carried over from a time when we new little of what it meant to be "alive". We now know what is required to maintain homeostasis and to me that suggests that we should have matured past this notion of surviving ones death. The idea that after our death we will experience life in another human form, or by sitting up on high, is just escapism from the ultimate reality of death. The only form our body takes after the electrical signals have stopped, is one of a rotting corpse giving bacteria and bugs a banquet. As for the definition of 'Prove' I would have thought that some form of empiricism is necessary.


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23 May 2011, 4:02 am

there's nothing wrong with incorporating ideas from all sorts of schools of study into one's life. it's a surreal mix of awesomeness that gives subjective life some saturation, thus influencing the tangible. it's pretty cool, really. if that's mumbo-jumbo, then i don't know what isn't