FL Governor Scott wants drug test for welfare recipients

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So, peoples who consider taxation a form of dictatorship and that governments should leave peoples alone, are asking that a imporatant proportion of the citizens to be compulsory drug tested if they want to keep their home. I see...

Either or not welfare peoples are buying fast-food is not your business.

I don't have a problem with people with a known addiction problem (i.e. a medical history of severe substance abuse and/or drug related run-ins with the law) being forced to pass drug testing or seek treatment if they are recieving welfare. My issue is with forcing ALL welfare recipients to go through a drug test, including people who have never had any past problems. Being on welfare alone shouldn't be grounds for losing rights.

If they can keep a job or come up with their own money somehow, they can do drugs until they get busted AND pay rent that way. If they want government cheese, THEN they better prove they are clean in order to get it.


It's not so much about completely banning junk food as it is about discouraging meals of cocoa puffs and Cheetos washed down with a gallon milk jug of grape drink. I used to eat like that (but not using government cheese) and I found that healthier food, while more expensive, fills you up longer and helps you keep your weight down, which is what that legislation is primarily about- they don't want to pay for junk food and then pay for their healthcare needs when they develop health problems from obesity and high sugar diets.

And you can't buy fast food or any other pre-prepared food with food stamps, so that's not an issue.

I do not want to support junkies, whether directly or by proxy-taxation.

This world is far too Socialist already.

If half of the effort used to chase down welfare cheats was used to deal with tax evasion by the upper classes why the prime minister would be assassinated and the killers would be celebrated by the media as heroes.

Money for survival cannot be subject to any conditions. This is so because otherwise enslavement would result. To survive, people would become debt peons and outright slaves. This must not be allowed.

It is if they want taxpayer assistance to do so. If they want to buy Doritos, soda, cookies, whatever they can use their own money. As mentioned they're already restricted from using their cards for alcohol or prepared food.

Your theory rests on the work ethic of tweakers and crackheads.

I support it. Its perhaps the only decent thing this farktard of a governor has ever done.

If the state is giving out money then that money should not go to those who commit crimes. Doing drugs by default means they are purchasing and possessing illegal substances, ergo they committing crime (and supporting criminal enterprise). And yes, I'd also extend this to deny welfare to anyone who has a recent criminal record.

Actually it IS the business of the gov. to deny the use of FOOD STAMPS to purchase items that do not qualify for the purpose for which the food stamps are issued for. You need to remember welfare assistance in the form of food stamps is not money that is given to a person to do what they want with it, its a ticket to be redeemed for sustenance. Cheetos are not sustenance. It is GOV MONEY that the individual is being allowed to use for food. Its Not a gift. Its not a right.

In all reality drug addicts in prison cost the tax-payer more per person than if they were receiving welfare. If we really want to save money we should focus on encouraging suicide for drug addicts. Perhaps they should just be forced to intentionally OD and stop being such a burden on society.

Ah, but that's where trading comes in handy. (Suffice to say that taking public transit can be quite educational.)

And drug addicts on welfare are for all practical purpose a organized crime and cartel activities. They will have a premature death eventually, whether they OD, get killed over a drug debt or deal gone bad, or victimize the wrong person. Sending them to jail may be more expensive, but giving them money to finance the drug trade is absurd and will eventually cost more than locking up users.

While we're at it we should start locking up all the alcoholics as well. Damn criminals.

Desperation is the worst thing because it invites predators. There is a whole poverty industry out there of people who have poor people over a barrel and effectively squeeze them dry for the rest of their lives. Why do you think there has been sharecropping and peonage and other such reprehensible and immoral practices? What about people selling their organs? These things happen because despite there being more than enough the Personal Responsibility Brigade insists that mere survival be in play - presumably to discipline the lower orders, to "punish failure and reward success" and make the billionaires extra money with which to bribe politicians and disenfranchise everyone else. It appears to me that they probably benefit from the poverty industry themselves and have some debt peons at their beck and call.

I think these predators are far more reprehensible and wrong than these poor people themselves despite the fact that neoliberals root for the predators every time and believe the victims to deserve their fates. The neoliberals are also reprehensible and morally bankrupt people.

The government has every right legally and morally to require welfare recipients to be drug free and subject to testing.
Otherwise we are paying for them to get high.

Master_Pedant wrote:

You don't live in Florida I do.
If it bothers you that much then we'll send all of our drug addict welfare recipients to Winnipeg so you can take care of them.

"Rethuglican".............

Do you also wish to regulate and control every other aspect of their lives, and all their comings and goings? Why not just round them off and ship them off to labor camps and be done with it at that point?


No, you are targeting a specific class of people for different treatment because they are weak and you can get away with it. How about anyone who receives tax credits and deductions be compelled to submit to drug screening? Or anyone who uses any public service. Let's force all public school children to take drug tests. Same for anyone driving on public roads. Anyone who files a police report then should also have to be tested for drugs.


Yeah, well I live here too, and you're still full of crap. This is a reprehensible policy no matter where it is implemented, and don't pretend that you happening to be in a certain geographic area gives you some deep insight into the issue that others don't have.