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03 Jul 2011, 10:22 pm

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In a theoretical or moral capacity: Ghandi. <3 He is my absolute hero of all time. I would love to be as good to people, as compassionate he was.


Ghandi walk the paths of India barefoot and developed very heavy callouses on his feet. His health was quite frail and his frequent fasting caused him to have very bad breath. You might say he was a super calloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis, a super calloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis....;.

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Did that one already, but repetition - including recycling one's bons mots for each nears new class - is not illegitimate.


aCCCH! A senior moment. My memory is not what it used to be.

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That's OK. It was repeated in the song as well and was quite catchy.



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04 Jul 2011, 1:01 am

Sand wrote:
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super calloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis, a super calloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis....;.

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Did that one already, but repetition - including recycling one's bons mots for each nears new class - is not illegitimate.


aCCCH! A senior moment. My memory is not what it used to be.

ruveyn


That's OK. It was repeated in the song as well and was quite catchy.


And in any case, "What I tell you three times is true". One rep to go.



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12 Jul 2011, 9:30 am

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I don't know. I am a type of guy who is NOT a natural leader and likes to be ordered what to do. I also don't like someone who force himself onto me like when he decides I am his pet or something. Leader is a word used in the ancient world. We live in a modern society, not a tribe.


Yet I have seen - and heard - an experienced and far from stupid senior academic and department head say [to a fellow student of mine] "There is only one genius in this field" in a tone of intense reverence. There are even in this modern society [I will not get into the "tribe" discussion, though a lot of people are perturbed by the ethnocentric implications of that usage] leaders and followers; if you look you will sooner or later spot them.


What is your definition by 'leader'?

Force? Or Spiritual leader?

For the former one, I would not think so either, but I think this definition is rather narrow. For Spiritual leader, I am in a muddle now about that amongst all authors I have read, Who that I have deep understanding on him, who should I trust, who should I agree with, who are worth to it, and who are not?



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12 Jul 2011, 9:43 am

No, I would not think of a spiritual force or moral compass.

What I had in mind asking the question:

Is there a person - known to you from personal contact or from reading or the television - upon whose words and thoughts and behavior you tend to model your words and thoughts and behavior.

The professor I mentioned totally patterned his work in Linguistics on Chomsky's words and concepts, for example.

I myself have no such person - my words and thoughts and behavior are idiosyncratic and eclectic, neither agreeing nor disagreeing consistently with any other individual. But I know that some do have leaders and role models.



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12 Jul 2011, 10:19 am

[quote="Philologos"

Is there a person - known to you from personal contact or from reading or the television - upon whose words and thoughts and behavior you tend to model your words and thoughts and behavior.

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Isaac Newton, David Hume, Albert Einstein, Richard Feynman. All heroes to me.

I currently have no living heroes. All my heroes are dead.

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12 Jul 2011, 10:27 am

Philologos wrote:
No, I would not think of a spiritual force or moral compass.

What I had in mind asking the question:

Is there a person - known to you from personal contact or from reading or the television - upon whose words and thoughts and behavior you tend to model your words and thoughts and behavior.

The professor I mentioned totally patterned his work in Linguistics on Chomsky's words and concepts, for example.

I myself have no such person - my words and thoughts and behavior are idiosyncratic and eclectic, neither agreeing nor disagreeing consistently with any other individual. But I know that some do have leaders and role models.



Chomsky?! ! :wink:

For agreeing and disagreeing, I would hardly think anybody could consistently do so...

Sometimes, when I was younger, my leader were philosophers, and women(always with romantic affairs, but not always the heroine) from novels which touched me.

But I am more idiosyncratic now, while I am thinking more independently with the flowing time.



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12 Jul 2011, 12:39 pm

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Chomsky?! ! :wink:

For agreeing and disagreeing, I would hardly think anybody could consistently do so...

Sometimes, when I was younger, my leader were philosophers, and women(always with romantic affairs, but not always the heroine) from novels which touched me.

But I am more idiosyncratic now, while I am thinking more independently with the flowing time.


My professor - a good man whom I valued and value despite his being a loyalist - I have no idea where he would be on Chomsky's political postures. In Linguistics, he foillowed Chomsky. Thde other would take work.



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12 Jul 2011, 12:46 pm

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Chomsky?! ! :wink:

For agreeing and disagreeing, I would hardly think anybody could consistently do so...

Sometimes, when I was younger, my leader were philosophers, and women(always with romantic affairs, but not always the heroine) from novels which touched me.

But I am more idiosyncratic now, while I am thinking more independently with the flowing time.


My professor - a good man whom I valued and value despite his being a loyalist - I have no idea where he would be on Chomsky's political postures. In Linguistics, he foillowed Chomsky. Thde other would take work.