Am I one of the ony people (NT or Aspie/Autism Spectrum)

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Jono
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19 Jul 2011, 12:59 pm

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Gee, what a lovely misogynistic prose you've got there.

What because he likes interracial sex and has opinions on abortion? I have seen more misogynistic stuff come out of a woman's mouth before.


No, because he likes calling women sluts, prostitutes and whores just because they slept with a few guys. Jesus, since when has it got anything to do with him whether a woman slept with someone or not. If I asked a woman if she was still a virgin, married or not, I'm likely to get the answer that it's none of my business, which I should because it's none of my frigging business. As for the abortion issue, I think it's better to use contraception but I would still support a woman's right to have an abortion.

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By the way, you're posting in the wrong forum. This should be in PPR.

Yep, i'll give you that one.


I'll ask a mod to move it.



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19 Jul 2011, 1:07 pm

(Thread moved from Autism activism to PPR)


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19 Jul 2011, 2:16 pm

I'm rethinking this now and I regret posting in this thread. My views on racism and misogyny remain the same (it's bad) but it would be more productive from me to write a thesis on them or something rather than arguing with another person in a thread about it. It gives the impression I have ill will toward the person when it's the malignant societal phenomena of racism and misogyny that I hate. I mean no ill will to you Aspie_Gamer88 - you're a good person like anyone else and I don't like screaming at people literally or figuratively cause it's just not constructive. Some stuff just puts me into a blind rage I guess.



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19 Jul 2011, 2:53 pm

I do not understand what was the original point [which sounded as if it was asking if others were nonpartisan and then twisted] nor where it is going.



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19 Jul 2011, 5:35 pm

Wow, this thread went downhill very quickly :S



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20 Jul 2011, 5:34 am

ci wrote:
I was going to say you were being mellow dramatic and hypocritical

It's melodramatic.
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but I didn’t want to "pick on you".

What?
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At this point I now realize an argument with you is like debating Q on star trek the next generation episode 1 season 1 which I happened to watch last night on Netflix because of all the star trek talk on here.

Aha, a completely irrelevant metaphor that describes nothing about what I am. Again, quit making unsupported accusattions.
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It's not worth my time and others time but simply is a lesson in pathological thinking styles where their own rules don’t count and they play victim of their own tactics.

I completely agree. All the time you have accused me of various things: melodrama, arrogance, hypocrisy, and yet the accusations you are making right now are exactly the things you are charging me of. You're picking on a kid for being outspoken and a bit dumb, trying to accuse him of hate crimes whilst before in another thread you sat idly by whilst a guy spouting hate speech basically flamed whole groups of people and you then pick on me for calling hima neo-nazi?
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These kinds of folks have special rules of handicap in debate. You can’t argue with them In the same ways they argue with you.

I get the rules of debating. However, you are not debating. You're calling me out with these odious accusations time and again, trying to win by whatever means necessary. No amount of handicap gives you the right to start accusing me of anything and r have been very careful talking to people who show some decorum if they are handicapped. However, you aren't 'them'. You can't equate yourself with these other people.

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Your behavior is either learned which you have copied from it being done to you

First you make the underlying assumption that I am acting wrongly, then you use supposition to claim that I copied it? Who is the hypocrite here?
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or your really trying to foul up the debate and not take it seriously on this site.

There was no debate when I was assertive. I was either dealing with hate speech or outrageous accusations made against me.



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20 Jul 2011, 12:03 pm

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....who isn't straight down one path in terms of my morals???

Like for example: Abortion. I think if the girl was raped or the child would be a product of incest(possibly also rape) then yes, abortion should be allowed. However, if she was just hosing around with her boyfriend or being a slut or she is a prostitute or something like that and the condom broke, I say f**k it, you're having the baby b***h, like it or not, if it was up to me. Giving it up for adoption CAN be your choice once the kid is born and at least 3-5 months old though.

And immigration....I really think we should shut our borders down entirely but then again I LOVE me some Hispanic p****(I live in TX, so we have a lot of immigrants and a lot of them I know and party with or are good friends with, so I'd hate to see basically all of them go...that and the fact that America was pretty much founded on immigration)


I'd have to agree with you to an extent with these two issues. Completely on the immigration (I live in the UK and CANNOT wait for the UK to withdraw from the EU so we could close our borders too from all the Eastern European people coming to take British jobs from British People) but on the abortion thing, yes you're right, but I would have trouble allowing abortion after a rape or incest or if the mother and the baby are at risk... Even so, this is only because I was nearly aborted and look at me 24 years later, I've been given a life - so I'm rather biased... but yeah, if the girl was stupid enough to sleep with someone just for the sake of it, then yes - she must allow it to live, it's not the baby's fault it was conceived... If the mother and the father weren't committed to each other then they should not have had sex, simple as, and if someone is selfish enough to have sex (safe or unsafe) and manages to conceive, they must be required to let the child live and maybe put it up for adoption.

If we stopped abortions for the under 18's and made them give up the result of their stupidity, eventually there would be a lot less teen pregnancy.



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20 Jul 2011, 12:07 pm

Gedrene wrote:
ci wrote:
I was going to say you were being mellow dramatic and hypocritical

It's melodramatic.
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but I didn’t want to "pick on you".

What?
ci wrote:
At this point I now realize an argument with you is like debating Q on star trek the next generation episode 1 season 1 which I happened to watch last night on Netflix because of all the star trek talk on here.

Aha, a completely irrelevant metaphor that describes nothing about what I am. Again, quit making unsupported accusattions.
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It's not worth my time and others time but simply is a lesson in pathological thinking styles where their own rules don’t count and they play victim of their own tactics.

I completely agree. All the time you have accused me of various things: melodrama, arrogance, hypocrisy, and yet the accusations you are making right now are exactly the things you are charging me of. You're picking on a kid for being outspoken and a bit dumb, trying to accuse him of hate crimes whilst before in another thread you sat idly by whilst a guy spouting hate speech basically flamed whole groups of people and you then pick on me for calling hima neo-nazi?
ci wrote:
These kinds of folks have special rules of handicap in debate. You can’t argue with them In the same ways they argue with you.

I get the rules of debating. However, you are not debating. You're calling me out with these odious accusations time and again, trying to win by whatever means necessary. No amount of handicap gives you the right to start accusing me of anything and r have been very careful talking to people who show some decorum if they are handicapped. However, you aren't 'them'. You can't equate yourself with these other people.

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Your behavior is either learned which you have copied from it being done to you

First you make the underlying assumption that I am acting wrongly, then you use supposition to claim that I copied it? Who is the hypocrite here?
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or your really trying to foul up the debate and not take it seriously on this site.

There was no debate when I was assertive. I was either dealing with hate speech or outrageous accusations made against me.


You just cannot handle a little bit back at you of what you do.

Take it to PM because I am not going from post to post arguing with circular reasoning of someone that does what he says I do and says one thing in a reply then acts as if he doesn't say it at all.


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20 Jul 2011, 12:13 pm

I don't see how are your opinions regarding abortion or immigration are not straight down one path.

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If we stopped abortions for the under 18's and made them give up the result of their stupidity, eventually there would be a lot less teen pregnancy.

haha hahaha haha hahaha haha :lol: :lol: :lol:


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20 Jul 2011, 12:26 pm

joeyfarlz wrote:
If we stopped abortions for the under 18's and made them give up the result of their stupidity, eventually there would be a lot less teen pregnancy.
Consequences that apply to some vague distant uncertain future aren't effective deterrents. We're simply too impulsive and short-sighted. If I just coughed up blood then that's a lot more likely to make me quit smoking than a chance of getting cancer 30 years from now. Consequences must be certain and immediate in order to be effective at deterrence.



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20 Jul 2011, 1:53 pm

So much ignorance, so little bandwith for me to respond...



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10 Sep 2015, 7:28 am

...So not only should someone who does not want the baby have to give birth to it , she should be forced to keep it for " 3-5 months " ?
Oh , and if abortion were outlawed and stopped (on a legal level , anyway) , how would society deal with the massive flood of - no matter what the circumstances - nonwanted babies that would follow that ?????
I suppose you're trying to be a " politically incorrect bad boy " with the " b*tch " , " slut " , stuff ???????

Like for example: Abortion. I think if the girl was raped or the child would be a product of incest(possibly also rape) then yes, abortion should be allowed. However, if she was just hosing around with her boyfriend or being a slut or she is a prostitute or something like that and the condom broke, I say f**k it, you're having the baby b***h, like it or not, if it was up to me. Giving it up for adoption CAN be your choice once the kid is born and at least 3-5 months old though.

And immigration....I really think we should shut our borders down entirely but then again I LOVE me some Hispanic p****(I live in TX, so we have a lot of immigrants and a lot of them I know and party with or are good friends with, so I'd hate to see basically all of them go...that and the fact that America was pretty much founded on immigration)

And as for minority rights.....I say we elect one person from each of the other races(we already have a black guy, tons of whites, 2 ret*d people(looking at you, Obama and Bush junior) and a crazy guy(I'm looking at YOU now Reagan)) so lets knock out the rest and then do a woman from each race so they can't b***h and call it quits. It doesn't fix everything, sure, but it should be good enough til we get our s**t in line and can actually get around to the bigger problems. Not to mention the fact that I, a 23 year old white male here in America, am slowly but surely seeing my race become a minority in a country WE founded.

As for for or against war....well, the Iraq War is a total crock for why we were over there in the firs place. Bin Laden, had we actually been over there for that in the first place and it not been an excuse for us to do a million other non-Bin Laden-search related things, could have EASILY been caught 4-5 years ago. Thats my personal opinion, so please don't flame me. But for wars that we're actually going in, getting our s**t done, and pulling out once the general mission is complete, I'm cool with.

Anyway, but yeah, just wondering if I'm the only person here who thinks this way and not just "HERP A DERP A DERP A DERP!! ! TOTALLY AGAINST ANY AND ALL WAR, ABORTION AND IMMIGRATION HERP A DERP A DERP DERP!! !"

Or the other way around.[/quote]