On The Holy Qur'an (Updating all the time)
I don't think it means casual contact.
I thought so, but one of the translations told me it is not.
A system of rules will always attract those who want and need to interpret and expand and multiply rules.
Given Muhammad's personality as passed down to us, the Qur'an will have been high on rules even before the Organizationals started.
I commented on the only part of the Koran you quoted that seems somewhat defensible.
My only comment on the rest would be, "You're right, that's horrible".
And actually, the Bible does alternate between "fear" and "love" in regard to how people should feel about God. I had a preacher once that told everyone "fear" should be read as "awe", but that's just one opinion.
Yes
For the bible, at least they used 'love' , therefore we can know the right attitude...
But if you are always fear of Allah....How can you ever understand Allah's teaching if you only have fear of the Allah?
I commented on the only part of the Koran you quoted that seems somewhat defensible.
My only comment on the rest would be, "You're right, that's horrible".
And actually, the Bible does alternate between "fear" and "love" in regard to how people should feel about God. I had a preacher once that told everyone "fear" should be read as "awe", but that's just one opinion.
Yes
For the bible, at least they used 'love' , therefore we can know the right attitude...
But if you are always fear of Allah....How can you ever understand Allah's teaching if you only have fear of the Allah?
I don't think it means casual contact.
I thought so, but one of the translations told me it is not.
A system of rules will always attract those who want and need to interpret and expand and multiply rules.
Given Muhammad's personality as passed down to us, the Qur'an will have been high on rules even before the Organizationals started.
Do you think Muslims want and need to interpret and expand and multiply rules?
And what is the meaning of your last sentence?
Please help!! ! I am very curious..
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran ... x-life.htm
This one, sometimes does not work and sometimes does..
For the' All rights reserved' I cannot copy it...rather interesting, but however, I have doubt about the reliability of the interpretation..
Perhaps I have to go back and read the original Holy Qur'an, no matter I can only get the literaral meaning, perhaps.
Do you think Muslims want and need to interpret and expand and multiply rules?
And what is the meaning of your last sentence?
Please help!! ! I am very curious..
Muslims do not as such need or desire rules any more than Christians, Buddhists, atheist engineers, cooks.
Any organization - Islam, subsets of Islam - attracts by virtue of its organization four kinds of people: those who want the power to control the organization; those who want to motivate people and mobilize the organization; those who want the organization to give their lives structure and purpose; and those who want to impose order on the organization. Not quite the four basic Indian castes.
The ones who need to impose organization and uniformity WILL multiply rules in whatever organization they enter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulama
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa
This one, sometimes does not work and sometimes does..
For the' All rights reserved' I cannot copy it...rather interesting, but however, I have doubt about the reliability of the interpretation..
Perhaps I have to go back and read the original Holy Qur'an, no matter I can only get the literaral meaning, perhaps.
This is a More detailed explanation for my original post...
Interesting coincidence..
33:50 -O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you;
33:51 You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased
Do you think Muslims want and need to interpret and expand and multiply rules?
And what is the meaning of your last sentence?
Please help!! ! I am very curious..
Muslims do not as such need or desire rules any more than Christians, Buddhists, atheist engineers, cooks.
Any organization - Islam, subsets of Islam - attracts by virtue of its organization four kinds of people: those who want the power to control the organization; those who want to motivate people and mobilize the organization; those who want the organization to give their lives structure and purpose; and those who want to impose order on the organization. Not quite the four basic Indian castes.
The ones who need to impose organization and uniformity WILL multiply rules in whatever organization they enter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulama
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatwa
'not quite'
The four kinds of personality can be in the same person..
'Fatwa' has suddenly recalled Salman Rushdie into my mind
Hadith Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
Al-Baqara (The Cow) 2:282, But if the debtor is of poor understanding, or weak, or is unable himself to dictate, then let his guardian dictate in justice. And get two witnesses out of your own men. And if there are not two men (available), then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs, the other can remind her.
I have read that in A Thousand Splendid Suns...with numerous rules made by The Taliban...
Course they are except in strictly Islamic practicing regions like Afghanistan.
The four kinds of personality can be in the same person..
Very true. Theory derived from others' observation and consistent with my own observations says all of us have in us all of the available styles. We tend to spend most our time inone style, but bring others out as appropriate. I am primarily a pattern seeking Thinker, but I have definite tendencies to operate as an Organizer, and have frequently accessed Pioneer and Chiller components.
If a group of people find themselves in a situation where one of the Powervolk is needed, and no one who is primarily power focussed is among them, the one among them who has the strongest Powervolk component will step up as leader.
The four kinds of personality can be in the same person..
Very true. Theory derived from others' observation and consistent with my own observations says all of us have in us all of the available styles. We tend to spend most our time inone style, but bring others out as appropriate. I am primarily a pattern seeking Thinker, but I have definite tendencies to operate as an Organizer, and have frequently accessed Pioneer and Chiller components.
If a group of people find themselves in a situation where one of the Powervolk is needed, and no one who is primarily power focussed is among them, the one among them who has the strongest Powervolk component will step up as leader.
I Agree. Thank you very much for the explanation
(concentrating on the Holy Qur'an, but would you like to talk with me about the Rubaiyat please?)
I have read that in A Thousand Splendid Suns...with numerous rules made by The Taliban...
Course they are except in strictly Islamic practicing regions like Afghanistan.
Have you read it also???
I am so curious...
except in....Do you mean Iran? And Saudi Arabia? And ?????
I have read that in A Thousand Splendid Suns...with numerous rules made by The Taliban...
Course they are except in strictly Islamic practicing regions like Afghanistan.
Have you read it also???
I am so curious...
except in....Do you mean Iran? And Saudi Arabia? And ?????
Yes I read A Thousand Splendid suns. Saudi women are not allowed to go out without a male companion. I don't know if that is the case in Iran though. I think even Iranian women are not allowed to go out without a male companion given they already have very few rights there. If I remember right, there was an Iranian movie I watched in which the women were not allowed out on their own.
I mean Muslim women not in those Islamic predominant regions are allowed to go out on their own as they do in India and Africa.
