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08 Sep 2011, 1:09 am

I did an astral projection twice in my dreams.

The first time I went to bed thinking I want to visit the most remote star in the universe. I then fell asleep and found myself orbiting a small cold white dwarf seemingly at the edge of the universe. It was only when I felt scared of getting lost that I faded away and woke up.

The second time I had an OBE, I knew I was asleep, but I was in my room where I sleep. I though wow, I know I'm asleep so I should try and do something I've never done before. I tried to walk through my wall into the other room, but I got scared again and woke up rather frustrated. :x



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08 Sep 2011, 1:30 am

JohnyJohn wrote:
every second line below

Look i despise atheism because it is the cause of moral decline in the world.
false
You know Christianity respects other religions,
false
not the religions itself,
ok true
but the free will,
BS
if the person's don't do harm to them.
non-issue
A priest even said
who cares?
that buddhism is morally right ,
whatever
even though it is not the truth at least
:roll:
it its right in the moral sense,
zzz
since morality comes form God-given conscience and logic.
we need a facepalm emoticon
But hate pagan religions
yeah they're dumb
which sacrifices children's
we REALLY need a facepalm emoticon
and drink blood
no
and worship nature
yes
and sexual lawlessness.
I really need to hook up with a wiccan chick



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08 Sep 2011, 1:46 am


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08 Sep 2011, 1:50 am

Obres wrote:
God's kinda a dick, isn't he? I mean, he tells us to believe in him or we go to hell and get punished for eternity, then he comes to us only when we're in diminished mental states, in which we're prone to all sorts of delusions. I mean, why doesn't he just come down, in a crowded area in the middle of the day like "sup, I'm god" and do some crazy sh** that's like David Blaine x 1000? Like some undeniable omnipotent sh**. Like all it would've taken is during hurricane Irene, if he just made the entire 600-mile wide storm system completely disappear for 15 minutes and sent little god representatives door to door just to be like "hey, everything cool"? Think of the souls that could be saved!


Didn't you know? God is the ultimate troll. Internet trolls have nothing on his awesome ways of "harassment". :wink:


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08 Sep 2011, 6:56 am

Look,real Christianity is Eastern Orthodox Christianity,not catholicism.



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08 Sep 2011, 7:31 am

Look, real Christianity is what a I adhere to. Not the other thing.

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Saw lucifer in my dream.When i was an unbeliever.Had nothing in my subconscious to cause that.

How should you know that? It is your subconsciousness, you are not supposed to know what's in there until you dream...

I once dreamed I was sent to high school again. It must have been true...


Why doesn't god send hallucinations of lucifer to all non-believers? Since only you got this privilege of such an outstanding proof, you get to be saved from hell all while all of we who didn't get it will be doomed. Why is God being so arbitrary? Why is he such a Jerk?


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08 Sep 2011, 8:30 am

JohnyJohn wrote:
I demand the blasphemous messages to be deleted.I am sinning too,you know,if i see blasphemous messages while knowing it.Also by not doing anything.

Your demand will be denied. ALL beliefs are welcome here, even Christianity, so why not just ask your God to smite everyone who does not agree with you?

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Look i despise atheism because it is the cause of moral decline in the world.You know Christianity respects other religions,not the religions itself,but the free will,if the person's don't do harm to them.A priest even said that buddhism is morally right ,even though it is not the truth at least it its right in the moral sense,since morality comes form God-given conscience and logic.But hate pagan religions which sacrifices children's and drink blood and worship nature and sexual lawlessness.

The decline of civil order in the world can be traced to religious extremism of one form or another, or to the persecution of one religion by another (eg, religious intolerance).

Be thankful that no one is demanding your departure, and stop complaining about the 'blasphemies' of others.


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08 Sep 2011, 9:44 am

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Saw lucifer in my dream.When i was an unbeliever.Had nothing in my subconscious to cause that.He was laughing at me.A voice said to me ''Go there,he is satan''.I got to him,i don't know why though,and he looked at me.He was laughing and he said ''Yes he is an atheist,<myname>is an atheist.''He then looked at me again and then punched me in my lucid dream.My head got knocked back in the physical world.I think God allowed this to bring me to faith.

Another experience.What they say an ''oobe''. Or ''astral projection''.I was sleeping in my sister's room at the floor.Suddenly something happened.I started flying.I wondered and terrified ''What is happening?'',i said inside.I though i was flying with my body,like when Apostle Paul did not know when he got to heaven if he got there with his body or spirit.I got up to ceiling and i saw my sister sleeping.While my body was in the floor.I then got down to the bed of my sisters and tried to catch the wooden backside(the one that is in the place where the feet are-see pic to understand if i have not explained correctly-Image) of the bed.I couldn't because it was my spirit.Then my spirit returned to my body and i physically woke up.I was petrified.

I will tell more later.


What drugs have you been doing? I'd sure like to try some myself. :mrgreen:



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08 Sep 2011, 10:16 am

JohnyJohn wrote:
Look i despise atheism because it is the cause of moral decline in the world..


Christianity. The originator of heresy trials, burning people at the stake, the Crusades, pushing censorship laws (see the Comstock Laws). Christianity is on of the world's prime evils, almost up there with Islam.

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10 Sep 2011, 1:21 am

JohnyJohn wrote:
Look i despise atheism because it is the cause of moral decline in the world.


I disagree. Fear, war, hate, greed. The economy is bad, people live in fear of losing the rights, their homes, everything...this causes people to do desparate things, things they wouldn't ordinarily do under normal stable circumstances.

Perhaps there is a moral decline, but I serously don't think it has anything to do with Atheism.

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You know Christianity respects other religions,not the religions itself,but the free will,if the person's don't do harm to them.A priest even said that buddhism is morally right ,even though it is not the truth at least it its right in the moral sense,since morality comes form God-given conscience and logic.


No they don't. I've met very few Christians who actually respect others rights to not be Christian. And being a Christian, or belonging to any religion at all, isn't required for being moral, knowing right from wrong, and understanding laws.

You might want to listen to the other posters, and go get your brain looked at. And soon.

Also, I think you might need to start attending a different chruch. Clearly wherever you're going now is feeding you some real BS.

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But hate pagan religions which sacrifices children's and drink blood and worship nature and sexual lawlessness.


If your crazy dreams, your silly demand to have the "blasphemous" posts removed, and your really not very good spelling and grammer didn't already wreck any crediblity you might've had in my eyes, then this did.

You've never met a modern day Pagan have you? The only thing any Pagan would actually be guilty of on that list is Nature worship.

As far as killing children goes, have you ever heard of this quote from the Bible?

Quote:
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.


I'm not actually sure of the context of that quote, but it sounds like murdering kids to me.

And everytime a Christian takes communion, isn't the intent of that to metaphorically ingest the blood of Christ.

Sexual lawlessness? Isn't there more than one account in the Bible of women being raped?

So really. Get outta here. I'm not impressed by you at all. :roll:



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10 Sep 2011, 3:33 am

I don't think that JohnyJohn is obliged to impress anyone and is entitled to his opinion just like the rest, so please lets keep it civil.



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10 Sep 2011, 9:40 am

By definition you are not concious of your subconcious, Dreams are usually just random.



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10 Sep 2011, 9:50 am

Booyakasha wrote:
I don't think that JohnyJohn is obliged to impress anyone and is entitled to his opinion just like the rest, so please lets keep it civil.

Certainly, civil discourse is essential, but even civil discourse is meaningless without fact-based reasoning.

JohnyJohn's claims are purely subjective, and have no relevance in objective physical reality.


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10 Sep 2011, 10:00 am

Fnord wrote:
Booyakasha wrote:
I don't think that JohnyJohn is obliged to impress anyone and is entitled to his opinion just like the rest, so please lets keep it civil.

Certainly, civil discourse is essential, but even civil discourse is meaningless without fact-based reasoning.

JohnyJohn's claims are purely subjective, and have no relevance in objective physical reality.


Agreed, but my thought was that the comment:
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So really. Get outta here. I'm not impressed by you at all. :roll:
wasn't in accordance with the TOS. As if he's a bull on cattle auction that needs to impress some Yankee. Disagreement can be expressed a bit more politely.



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10 Sep 2011, 10:22 am

Booyakasha wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Booyakasha wrote:
I don't think that JohnyJohn is obliged to impress anyone and is entitled to his opinion just like the rest, so please lets keep it civil.
Certainly, civil discourse is essential, but even civil discourse is meaningless without fact-based reasoning. JohnyJohn's claims are purely subjective, and have no relevance in objective physical reality.

Agreed, but my thought was that the comment:
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So really. Get outta here. I'm not impressed by you at all.
wasn't in accordance with the TOS. As if he's a bull on cattle auction that needs to impress some Yankee. Disagreement can be expressed a bit more politely.

Agreed, but some people may simply be incapable of expressing themselves in a meaningful manner without resorting to personal insults or inflammatory outbursts.


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10 Sep 2011, 10:24 am

Booyakasha wrote:
Agreed, but my thought was that the comment:
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So really. Get outta here. I'm not impressed by you at all. :roll:
wasn't in accordance with the TOS. As if he's a bull on cattle auction that needs to impress some Yankee. Disagreement can be expressed a bit more politely.


Point taken. :?