Liberal media!

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It is the complaint of Union leaders of how they'd show up at union members houses to get the vote out about an upcoming election, whether in the company or a political one, and the door opens, and you can hear a glenn beck rant incoming from the background. It drives them nuts.

They only have the option of listening to a conservative on the air because liberals suck on radio. And liberals hate the middle class and detest their consumerism, their suv's, their sprawls, etc. It's a major problem these days.

Yet there still seems to be quite a large market for the papers you lament as "liberal". Which really shows how comical the supposed "centre" is, as the corporate-run NYT seems grotesquely rightwing compared to the Guardian (and, let's not forget, the NYT labelling Russia TV "state-owned" yet failing to US media outlets "corporate owned".).

http://www.thepaperboy.com/usa-top-100-newspapers.cfm

Many conservative papers tend to be trashier and easier to read, the Canada's Sun Media daillies a fine example and, if I recall correctly, there was quite a bit of uproar over Murdoch making the headlines for the WSJ more sensationalist. Plus, there's his advantage with sources, him being able to hack into them directly and all.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DPKyNf04hM[/youtube]

If the media market was really desperate for another conservative network, National Empowerment Television wouldn't have bleed so much money in 1996 and died out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_E ... Television

Incidentally, Fox News bleed money in it's early years as well. Fox lost $80-90 million a year in the early years (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thom-hart ... 32096.html <-- There's a cited* Brit Hume quotation). If MSNBC was allowed to lose massive amounts of money perfecting their progressive combo, you can bet they'd have good ratings years down the road.

MSNBC, among the major news networks, experienced the mildest drop (-5%) compared to Fox (-11%)

http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news ... 011-3?op=1

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*Hell, the quotes are so funny, in hindsight:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media/ju ... _7-12.html

What aspiring network wouldn't fail if people wrote $80b cheques to cover overruns?

Was it the right-winger billy cristol or david brooks who made that opinion? The NYT used to employ billy, and David's commentary can be read on tuesday's and saturdays(I think). It is still a center left paper by international standards, and ideological purity should not be a litmus test for one's leftiness.

Is the Sun Media Dallies the Canadian interpretation of the NY Post? A well-circulated joke? I am surprised the NY Post has higher circulation in the US then most of the big local papers like the Boston Globe or the Denver Post, but it does, and it offers mostly conservative trash but sometimes thoughtful and insightful conservative opinion.

So your gamble is for MSNBC to perfect it's progressiveness? It is a saturated market, and it would take Bill maher, John Stewart, and all the other news agencies sucking for them to draw viewership away. Like I said before, it seems that they all have a left-ward bent in their opinions but viewership is fragmented amongst all the different networks. Consolidating all that talent looks unlikely... Comedy Central, HBO, CBS, ABC, and company will compete even harder and not simply let you take viewership away. Money isn't going to fix this unless that money is going into luring a big name from a competitor.

Younger people a second time around would vote for McCain and insano? Really? Really?
Are you sure that's just not wishful thinking on your part?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

1. It isn't wishful thinking on his part.
2. I've had liberals from the hippy movement admit to me that I was right about Obama.
3. Seriously, you've demonstrated that you have no right to say I'm gullable ever again, because you still believe the lies the mainstream media said about Palin, after it has come out that the Mainstream media was actively coordinating with the Obama Campaign to character assassinate Sarah Palin.

Just because a few ex-hippies told you they were having buyers remorse about Obama doesn't mean that that's Representative of all of his supporters. Plus, how old are people from the hippie movement? I'd hardly call them young.
And as for character assassination - Palin did that pretty much to herself. I would elaborate, but my wife is calling me to lunch.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Oh you mean like troopergate where she was supposedly trying to be vindictive towards this poor ex-boyfriend of her sister.

Did you know, that the "poor ex-boyfriend of her sister" left DEATH THREATS on her father's answering machine?

Did you know, that the "poor ex-boyfriend of her sister" got caught with an open alcoholic beverage container, in his police car, (I think he may have been intoxicated too)?

Did you know, that the "poor ex-boyfriend of her sister" was also poaching (hunting certain animals out of season)?

Excuse me but if I left death threats on someone's answering machine, I would be in jail, and it wouldn't have to be a sitting governor's father.

A better question is why did she have to step in at all, because this "poor ex-boyfriend of her sister" should have been suspended already for sending people death threats at the very least!! !!

It wouldn't surprise me if you didn't know all this about troopergate either.

While I personally don't doubt that Palin has a vindictive side, I also know that her sister's ex was a raging a**hole in his own right, so I personally don't care much about that. What troubles me about her is how she seems to embrace the notion that not knowing anything is somehow a virtue. After all, being an intellectual must mean that you're an elitist, and that's somehow bad. When McCain's people had asked her to read up on history and politics, they found she had instead been emailing her "prayer warriors." People she had put into state offices weren't exactly qualified for those positions - rather, they were fellow evangelicals, and/or friends without proper training. One of her children's teachers recalled how she had argued against evolution and an old earth because, she claimed, dinosaur bones only a few thousand years old had been discovered in Alaska (no, they hadn't). She's maintained that she and her supporters represent mainstream American values - I suppose that would be true, if we all lived in small towns and rural areas, were Christian evangelicals, and behaved like Wasilla hillbillies (which is what McCain's people referred to her and her family as). Then, there's her opinion that America was divided between Pro-America and Anti-America parts - which only further divided people during the last campaign. And then there's her support for loons like Sharon Angle (who by the way had cast doubt on the existence of Asperger's), and and Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell, because they held the same outlandish social and religious convictions. I could go on and on...

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

No. It had to do with her firing Walter Monnegan as public safety commissioner. Walter was not the "poor ex-boyfriend of her sister."



"Poor ex-boyfriend?" You are apparently writing about Mrs. Palin's brother-in-law (Michael Wooten), the husband of her sister, Molly. Yes, she had divorced him. But, you are thoroughly aware that divorce is against her religion. A man who divorces his wife is guilty of causing her to commit adultery, and is responsible for her sin.


Mr. Wooten was, in fact, suspended.


You're definitely a hot one tonight!

I (barely) fell within the young-person-voting-for-Obama demographic, and have been very disappointed with him - but I would never vote for McCain/Palin against him, and I wouldn't touch most of the current Republican candidates with a 10-foot pole. I'd vote for Ron Paul before I voted for Perry or Bachman, and I'd vote for Obama befor Paul. The only ones that make me look twice are Huntsman and Romney, because they're the only ones that aren't insane, stupid, or evil of the entire pack.

Walter Monnegan quite frankly should have been fired for not firing that state trooper. It is a crime to threaten the lives of people, let alone the parents of a sitting Governor.

@ Kraichgauer

You do realize they released all of Palin's emails from when she was in office and the media couldn't find a single thing to use against her.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmno ... l-crusade/

I know you don't like Breitbart and this just makes this soo much better.

The writing score of Palin's everyday emails 8.5 compares with Obama's 2010 SOTU speech which clocked in at 8.8.

In President Obama's case, his Flesch-Kincaid grade level score was 8.8 for his first State of the Union Address

Got that? Palin's everyday emails are written at the same level as one of the most important Presidential speeches given by a President. You know the speech that has several professional speech writers working for months on? Yeah that speech. Palin's emails also score close to MLK Jr.'s "I have a Dream" speech (8. and the Gettysburg Address (9.1).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-blo ... 5138/posts

The Mainstream media went through 24,000 pages of emails, and couldn't find anything to use against her. Now you want to tell me she is somehow what they claimed she was, looks more like the Mainstream media was lieing about Palin to help Obama.

I never once said she had done anything illegal. I just think she's a self-absorbed fundie with little intellectual curiosity, and had gained little from her education. And in my humble opinion, she's just about the last person I'd want for president - or to occupy any political office, for that matter.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

That is, in fact, what happened.



Mrs. Palin's brother-in-law was suspended.

Of course she took out the salacious stuff first.



And both of them write a heck of a lot better than you.



Lieing about what?

Yeah if she is an uneducated moron, guess that makes you a brain dead chimpanzee.



Riiiighhhttt.... Except these were her public e-mails which were a matter of public record and the State of Alaska released all 24,000 e-mails. You're telling me that Palin was able to find all the e-mails that made her look dirty out of 24,000+ e-mails, next you'll be claiming Palin is an android.

You know, I don't recall ever making personal slights toward you.

Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer