10 Global Businesses That Worked With The Nazis

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11 Oct 2011, 1:02 pm

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For those of you who do not know everything n Nazi Germany was privatized something left

Wing politics are against but the Tea Party supoorts the corperations aka americans idots

And They support the idea of privatizing things like health care so the middle and lower class

want get it.

I am a Independent so I just love stirring the pot between the left and the right its so amusing :lol:

I find it funny a conservative said that I am talking about something that happened years ago but they always bring up Nazis when talking about liberals.


Well problem for pandabear is the company she's yelling about is a major Democrat Campaign contributor and was selling stuff to Iran just a few years ago (wouldn't surprise me if they still are).



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11 Oct 2011, 7:19 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Joker wrote:
For those of you who do not know everything n Nazi Germany was privatized something left

Wing politics are against but the Tea Party supoorts the corperations aka americans idots

And They support the idea of privatizing things like health care so the middle and lower class

want get it.

I am a Independent so I just love stirring the pot between the left and the right its so amusing :lol:

I find it funny a conservative said that I am talking about something that happened years ago but they always bring up Nazis when talking about liberals.


Well problem for pandabear is the company she's yelling about is a major Democrat Campaign contributor and was selling stuff to Iran just a few years ago (wouldn't surprise me if they still are).


That doesn't suprise me either.

They have been losing support in America they have to find it some where else which would be the enemy.



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11 Oct 2011, 10:57 pm

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Capitalism at work


Looks more like Socialism or Crony Capitalism at work.


No, it really doesn't at all. Do you even know what any of these words mean? I get the feeling that you don't really know what the hell you're talking about and just like spitting out words. At least you've done us a favor and were kind enough to capitalize all the words you don't understand.



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11 Oct 2011, 11:02 pm

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Business is business. A profit making firm is not in the business of making moral judgments. The only thing that counts is operating legally and profitable. A business firm could do business with the Devil himself as long as it is legal.

Sorry, a for-profit corporation has moral obligations beyond mere fiduciary duty and not breaking the law. Corporations, beyond duties to their shareholders, have duties to their employees, their customers, the communities they operate in, and the environment.


I've heard people go so far as to argue that according to American business law, businesses are required to try to make decisions to maximize profits over all else. So if that's right, then a company that was offered a lucrative contract from Kim Jong-Il, as long as it was legal, would be required to take it unless it determined it would lose more revenue than it would gain from bad PR or some other issue related to said contract.



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11 Oct 2011, 11:58 pm

Obres wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Business is business. A profit making firm is not in the business of making moral judgments. The only thing that counts is operating legally and profitable. A business firm could do business with the Devil himself as long as it is legal.

Sorry, a for-profit corporation has moral obligations beyond mere fiduciary duty and not breaking the law. Corporations, beyond duties to their shareholders, have duties to their employees, their customers, the communities they operate in, and the environment.


I've heard people go so far as to argue that according to American business law, businesses are required to try to make decisions to maximize profits over all else. So if that's right, then a company that was offered a lucrative contract from Kim Jong-Il, as long as it was legal, would be required to take it unless it determined it would lose more revenue than it would gain from bad PR or some other issue related to said contract.


They are also required to follow US law when their company is based in the US, selling electronics to a company that we have a trade embargo on is not exactly following the law.



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12 Oct 2011, 7:12 am

They forgot the Catholic Church


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Conservatives can be so immoral.


And so can Bleeding Heart Liberals. Look at Bahney Fwank, the representative from Mass. .

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You are making this post a couple of seconds after you said it is all right if corps contribute with nazis if that helps their profit margins :/


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12 Oct 2011, 9:28 am

of course comapnies have responsibilities outside of profits, how anyone can say differently is beyond me,

it might be a company but it is humans doing the decision making and any human willing to sacrifice morals for profit is rotten in my book.


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12 Oct 2011, 9:30 am

Obres wrote:
NeantHumain wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Business is business. A profit making firm is not in the business of making moral judgments. The only thing that counts is operating legally and profitable. A business firm could do business with the Devil himself as long as it is legal.

Sorry, a for-profit corporation has moral obligations beyond mere fiduciary duty and not breaking the law. Corporations, beyond duties to their shareholders, have duties to their employees, their customers, the communities they operate in, and the environment.


I've heard people go so far as to argue that according to American business law, businesses are required to try to make decisions to maximize profits over all else. So if that's right, then a company that was offered a lucrative contract from Kim Jong-Il, as long as it was legal, would be required to take it unless it determined it would lose more revenue than it would gain from bad PR or some other issue related to said contract.


Yes Publicly traded firms have a moral obligation to be immoral.
But nothing is wrong with the american system commie :wink:


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12 Oct 2011, 9:45 am

Obres wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Obres wrote:
Capitalism at work


Looks more like Socialism or Crony Capitalism at work.


No, it really doesn't at all. Do you even know what any of these words mean? I get the feeling that you don't really know what the hell you're talking about and just like spitting out words. At least you've done us a favor and were kind enough to capitalize all the words you don't understand.


Just to qualify

Crony capitalism: Where private companies stop actual capitalism by enforcing a state of affairs that does not allocate resources at all efficiently and only benefits a clique.

Socialism: A system whereby wealth is shared out to the poorer members of society in order to maintain a mandated standard of living, anything between subsistence and near-equality. Often confused with communism, which is Theocratic feudalism masquerading utopian socialism.



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13 Oct 2011, 2:17 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Joker wrote:
For those of you who do not know everything n Nazi Germany was privatized something left

Wing politics are against but the Tea Party supoorts the corperations aka americans idots

And They support the idea of privatizing things like health care so the middle and lower class

want get it.

I am a Independent so I just love stirring the pot between the left and the right its so amusing :lol:

I find it funny a conservative said that I am talking about something that happened years ago but they always bring up Nazis when talking about liberals.


Well problem for pandabear is the company she's yelling about is a major Democrat Campaign contributor and was selling stuff to Iran just a few years ago (wouldn't surprise me if they still are).


If the truth be known, the Koch brothers were guilty of doing business with Iran at the same time. Their lame excise was that other companies were doing it, too.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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13 Oct 2011, 2:26 pm

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Inuyasha wrote:
Joker wrote:
For those of you who do not know everything n Nazi Germany was privatized something left

Wing politics are against but the Tea Party supoorts the corperations aka americans idots

And They support the idea of privatizing things like health care so the middle and lower class

want get it.

I am a Independent so I just love stirring the pot between the left and the right its so amusing :lol:

I find it funny a conservative said that I am talking about something that happened years ago but they always bring up Nazis when talking about liberals.


Well problem for pandabear is the company she's yelling about is a major Democrat Campaign contributor and was selling stuff to Iran just a few years ago (wouldn't surprise me if they still are).


If the truth be known, the Koch brothers were guilty of doing business with Iran at the same time. Their lame excise was that other companies were doing it, too.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yes that's true and Ronald Reagan and the US sold wepons to Iraq when the soviets where invading them then they turned the same wepons against us oh the irony :lol:



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13 Oct 2011, 2:28 pm

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communism, which is Theocratic feudalism masquerading utopian socialism.


quite a partisan interpretation, and as far from reality as one could likely get. i take it you've never read marx...


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13 Oct 2011, 2:29 pm

Joker wrote:
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Inuyasha wrote:
Joker wrote:
For those of you who do not know everything n Nazi Germany was privatized something left

Wing politics are against but the Tea Party supoorts the corperations aka americans idots

And They support the idea of privatizing things like health care so the middle and lower class

want get it.

I am a Independent so I just love stirring the pot between the left and the right its so amusing :lol:

I find it funny a conservative said that I am talking about something that happened years ago but they always bring up Nazis when talking about liberals.


Well problem for pandabear is the company she's yelling about is a major Democrat Campaign contributor and was selling stuff to Iran just a few years ago (wouldn't surprise me if they still are).


If the truth be known, the Koch brothers were guilty of doing business with Iran at the same time. Their lame excise was that other companies were doing it, too.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Yes that's true and Ronald Reagan and the US sold wepons to Iraq when the soviets where invading them then they turned the same wepons against us oh the irony :lol:


I think you mean Afghanistan. Sorry, don't mean to sound anal.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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13 Oct 2011, 2:30 pm

peebo wrote:
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communism, which is Theocratic feudalism masquerading utopian socialism.


quite a partisan interpretation, and as far from reality as one could likely get. i take it you've never read marx...


I have I like Karl Marx 8)