Page 2 of 9 [ 132 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 9  Next


What do you think God's views on sex are?
"It's pretty dirty, so I turn my back whenever it happens. Ya, I made it, but I'm still uncomfortable with the whole idea." 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
"I'm all for sex. I made it, so enjoy it. Just keep in mind that its meant for you and your spouse, and should only be experienced between you two." 41%  41%  [ 14 ]
Other 56%  56%  [ 19 ]
Total votes : 34

meems
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Dec 2010
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,869

20 Oct 2011, 4:56 pm

However, in Biblical terms, you are probably not actually married.

Really, in Jewish terms,(which IS the Bible) I know you aren't married.



meems
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Dec 2010
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,869

20 Oct 2011, 5:02 pm

Admittedly, if the Jews had wiped out the Canaanites like God said they would have to do to become his people, then there wouldn't have ever have been an Abraham/Issac/Ischmael problem, and you wouldn't be arguing about this. You'd probably be arguing about what the appropriate amount of Zoroastrian fire breaths you have to give to buxom baal supporter before you can be reasonably sure that you won't have to have a fortnight after pill.



Inuyasha
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2009
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,745

20 Oct 2011, 5:07 pm

I think God's position on sex actually has to do with taking responsibility for your actions. You shouldn't have sex unless you are willing to accept the fact you could end up having babies as the result. Then you must take responsibility for said child, and provide for that child.



AngelRho
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Jan 2008
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,366
Location: The Landmass between N.O. and Mobile

20 Oct 2011, 5:32 pm

Meh...

Sex that honors God is for married heterosexual couples only who love God first. If you don't love and trust God first, it doesn't matter what kind of sex you have.

Getting back to OT dictates on sex, pre-marital sex is not strictly forbidden. It's only forbidden in certain express situations. Premarital sex is merely just "frowned upon" if the woman is not promised to any man or if the woman has sex with the man she's promised to. There is ALWAYS more room for love in the OT. It's only messing with something that belongs to someone else that will get you in SERIOUS trouble.

Still, though, one might infer that waiting for marriage is ideal, and I really do think it was this ideal that was in view here.

I think I'd have rather waited and have been a one-woman man for life, and sure, I'd have preferred that my wife had only been with me. Going by the law, both of us would have been either miserable or dead by now. Thankfully we live in much more merciful circumstances these days than the ancient Israelites.

On the other hand, according to the Bible, they couldn't keep the law either! lol



Tadzio
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Sep 2009
Age: 74
Gender: Male
Posts: 877

20 Oct 2011, 11:45 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
I think God's position on sex actually has to do with taking responsibility for your actions. You shouldn't have sex unless you are willing to accept the fact you could end up having babies as the result. Then you must take responsibility for said child, and provide for that child.


The Gods' favorite positions on sex actually seldom matches "The Missionary Position". This least favorite is verified by simply reading the summary description of sex in theory and practice of a strict monotheism as noted by Christopher Hitchens' in his 1995 book ibid (page 51). The earliest Gods were seldom kind to their babies (just ask Saturn), and later, if need be, they could always have them suckled by a wolf.

The Goddess of marriage, being "married" to her sibling Zeus according to some Gods, only met with feeble popularity propagating "marriage" by sacrificing her daughter.

Since the State and the Church both want more than a sufficient supply of future young adults, they take actions to their own best interests, often while shirking the Social Contract with many wiles of fraud.

Citations of the Precedent Poems of the Gods & Sexes in Latin most often results in relocation to the adult section, so I'll limit the Godly predilection to the first couple lines of a single:
"Dear reader, though my uncombed verse be queer, unfurl at once that supercilious sneer."

Tadzio

http://www.archive.org/stream/satiraeet ... t_djvu.txt
http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2000/2000-02-23.html



Awesomelyglorious
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Dec 2005
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,157
Location: Omnipresent

20 Oct 2011, 11:55 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
I think God's position on sex actually has to do with taking responsibility for your actions. You shouldn't have sex unless you are willing to accept the fact you could end up having babies as the result. Then you must take responsibility for said child, and provide for that child.

And where is that actually made explicit?



blauSamstag
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Apr 2011
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,026

21 Oct 2011, 12:40 am

Zeus doesn't care what i do.



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

21 Oct 2011, 12:43 am

Inuyasha wrote:
I think God's position on sex actually has to do with taking responsibility for your actions.


Last I heard, the old man was a sucker for the reverse cowgirl position, not this "responsibility for your actions" :P


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


pandabear
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Aug 2007
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,402

21 Oct 2011, 10:38 am

Ragtime wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
"Thou wilt show me the path of life: In thy presence is fulness of joy; In thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore."
Psalm 16:11


It does sound like an advertisement for masturbation.


To the ignorant, it most certainly does. But "right hand" being an antiquated term denoting power, the verse simply refers to God's power to provide pleasure.


So, for the non-ignorant, this means that God will jerk believers off?



blauSamstag
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Apr 2011
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,026

21 Oct 2011, 11:31 am

I'll say this much: That humans were "intelligently designed" such that they are equipped to copulate for pleasure alone, more or less on demand, in stark contrast to the vast majority of the animal kingdom which just doesn't have that ability, would suggest that our "creator" either wants this to be possible, or is just the sort of a**hole who would steal candy from a baby just to teach it a lesson.



Ragtime
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2006
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,927
Location: Dallas, Texas

21 Oct 2011, 2:07 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
I think God's position on sex actually has to do with taking responsibility for your actions. You shouldn't have sex unless you are willing to accept the fact you could end up having babies as the result. Then you must take responsibility for said child, and provide for that child.


In other words, marriage. Kids need the full family package, even if mommy and daddy don't want it.



Ragtime
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2006
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,927
Location: Dallas, Texas

21 Oct 2011, 2:21 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
I'll say this much: That humans were "intelligently designed" such that they are equipped to copulate for pleasure alone, more or less on demand, in stark contrast to the vast majority of the animal kingdom which just doesn't have that ability, would suggest that our "creator" either wants this to be possible, or is just the sort of a**hole who would steal candy from a baby just to teach it a lesson.


See, this illustrates what I'm talking about: No one ever gives Satan any credit! For being an a**hole, that is. Satan ALWAYS gets a pass when non-believers talk about evil in reference to the teachings of the Bible. He's just smiling in the shadows, at all the fools who fail to realize that he is the puppetmaster of all evil -- the same fools who will soon become his unfortunate roommates for all eternity. It's sad. But I'm happy it's not me, and also that no one who chooses wisdom will fall prey to that inglorious end.



visagrunt
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Oct 2009
Age: 59
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,118
Location: Vancouver, BC

21 Oct 2011, 2:36 pm

Ragtime wrote:
See, this illustrates what I'm talking about: No one ever gives Satan any credit! For being an a**hole, that is. Satan ALWAYS gets a pass when non-believers talk about evil in reference to the teachings of the Bible. He's just smiling in the shadows, at all the fools who fail to realize that he is the puppetmaster of all evil -- the same fools who will soon become his unfortunate roommates for all eternity. It's sad. But I'm happy it's not me, and also that no one who chooses wisdom will fall prey to that inglorious end.


So what's the Almighty doing while Satan is toiling away? For an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent Creator, the Almighty is certainly taking a "hands-off" approach when it comes to the touchstone of evil.

In truth, it does not require any religious faith to look at oneself critically and see oneself as an imperfect moral creature. There are many bases on which we can strive to mitigate those imperfections, religion being merely one of them. When religion asks each of us to be self-aware, and to strive to be better people, then religion is at its most noble. But when religion seeks to impose an arbitrary, uncritical code of conduct on us, then religion fails in its mission to make us better people.

For the Church to be universal and Christian, then the Church must begin with the message, "you are as your creator made you."


_________________
--James


pandabear
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Aug 2007
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,402

21 Oct 2011, 3:09 pm

If I remember correctly, Ragtime divorced his first wife, which means that he is guilty of compelling her to commit adultery.



Ragtime
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2006
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,927
Location: Dallas, Texas

21 Oct 2011, 3:31 pm

pandabear wrote:
If I remember correctly, Ragtime divorced his first wife, which means that he is guilty of compelling her to commit adultery.


Personal attacks like this one are why I left Wrong Planet.



pandabear
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Aug 2007
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,402

21 Oct 2011, 3:36 pm

Ragtime wrote:
pandabear wrote:
If I remember correctly, Ragtime divorced his first wife, which means that he is guilty of compelling her to commit adultery.


Personal attacks like this one are why I left Wrong Planet.


Are you somewhat incomplete in your adherence to scripture?