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21 Oct 2011, 3:32 pm

Congress authorized the advisers a while ago but it wasn't acted on until now, and the LRA is every bit as brutal as the Islamic groups in the area. In fact, it is mostly Christians in the SPLA that are fighting the LRA.

Here's a starting point to learn about what is going on in that region:

http://www.machinegunpreacher.org


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21 Oct 2011, 3:34 pm

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I gather that you jokers didn't read the entire link.

At the end, Mr. Lardbutt says

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Is that right? The Lord's Resistance Army is being accused of really bad stuff? Child kidnapping, torture, murder, that kind of stuff? Well, we just found out about this today. We're gonna do, of course, our due diligence research on it. But nevertheless we got a hundred troops being sent over there to fight these guys -- and they claim to be Christians.


First, he accuses President Obama of nefariously planning to slaughter Christians in various African countries. Then, later in the same show, he reveals that he has just found out that "The Lord's Resistance Army" was being accused of "really bad stuff: child kidnapping, torture, murder, that kind of stuff." No, he promises that he is going to perform some "due diligence research."

He got his information, in the first place, from ABC

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... ance-army/

where it says

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for more than two decades the Lord's Resistance Army has been responsible for having “murdered, raped, and kidnapped tens of thousands of men, women, and children in central Africa” and continues to “commit atrocities across the Central African Republic, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and South Sudan that have a disproportionate impact on regional security.”


Fatty obviously didn't bother reading the whole article before rushing to accuse our president of plotting to kill innocent African Christians.

The Right Wing Nut Jobs are obviously getting desperate in their efforts to smear our president.


The governments there have been accused of attrocities too, furthermore doesn't Sudan still allow slavery?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudan

Wow so we're supporting at least one government that endorses slavery now...


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Didn't Fox News ever say anything about South Sudan?

http://www.goss.org/



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21 Oct 2011, 4:19 pm

@ pandabear
Your own ABC News article brought up Sudan so actually I can say Obama is picking one group of monsters over another group where the only obvious difference is the one he is favoring happens to be Muslim.



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21 Oct 2011, 4:46 pm

The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE



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21 Oct 2011, 4:52 pm

Jacoby wrote:
The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE


Jacoby, Obama is pulling out of Iraq which we actually have a legit reason to be in, because we made the mess when we took out Saddam, the responsible thing is to clean up after ourselves rather than let Iran seize power, hell Iraq doesn't even have an airforce currently.



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21 Oct 2011, 4:54 pm

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So are you.


That's absolutely uncalled for!



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21 Oct 2011, 4:57 pm

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The governments there have been accused of attrocities too, furthermore doesn't Sudan still allow slavery?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudan

Wow so we're supporting at least one government that endorses slavery now...


Except the US has never specifically shown care for or interest in Sudan, and has allowed for Sudan to split with no interference. In fact the Black 'Arabs' have generally been ndenigrated as complicit in a slaughter that the USA wouldn't mind fixing so there would be no barriers to drilling oil in the south.

You are desperate.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:00 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE


Jacoby, Obama is pulling out of Iraq which we actually have a legit reason to be in, because we made the mess when we took out Saddam, the responsible thing is to clean up after ourselves rather than let Iran seize power, hell Iraq doesn't even have an airforce currently.


Obama isn't doing any of that. Troops are leaving Iraq because of the Status of Forces agreement that Bush signed back in 2008 and more so because Iraq announced that US soldiers will lose their legal immunity at the end of this year.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:03 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE


Jacoby, Obama is pulling out of Iraq which we actually have a legit reason to be in, because we made the mess when we took out Saddam, the responsible thing is to clean up after ourselves rather than let Iran seize power, hell Iraq doesn't even have an airforce currently.


Aye, and Jacoby is complaining about nation building now? Why is it that he's complaining when the President is actually solving conflicts or not involved in conflicts that don't put the USA in toa heavy deficit?

Actually whilst I am at it Rush Limbaugh was complaining about the same thing at the same time that the Libyan Army was defeating the Gadhaffites in Sirte, about the USA being involved in word policing too much. Blatant hypocrite. Not to mention a straight up idiot. The man has no sense of competence, only his ideological leanings.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:05 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE


Jacoby, Obama is pulling out of Iraq which we actually have a legit reason to be in, because we made the mess when we took out Saddam, the responsible thing is to clean up after ourselves rather than let Iran seize power, hell Iraq doesn't even have an airforce currently.


Obama isn't doing any of that. Troops are leaving Iraq because of the Status of Forces agreement that Bush signed back in 2008 and more so because Iraq announced that US soldiers will lose their legal immunity at the end of this year.

Legal immunity doesn't mean pulling out. And to be honest Obama has actually gotten things done.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:13 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE


Jacoby, Obama is pulling out of Iraq which we actually have a legit reason to be in, because we made the mess when we took out Saddam, the responsible thing is to clean up after ourselves rather than let Iran seize power, hell Iraq doesn't even have an airforce currently.


Obama isn't doing any of that. Troops are leaving Iraq because of the Status of Forces agreement that Bush signed back in 2008 and more so because Iraq announced that US soldiers will lose their legal immunity at the end of this year.

Legal immunity doesn't mean pulling out. And to be honest Obama has actually gotten things done.


Yeah and Iran is doing its best to destabilize Iraq.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:16 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE


Jacoby, Obama is pulling out of Iraq which we actually have a legit reason to be in, because we made the mess when we took out Saddam, the responsible thing is to clean up after ourselves rather than let Iran seize power, hell Iraq doesn't even have an airforce currently.


Obama isn't doing any of that. Troops are leaving Iraq because of the Status of Forces agreement that Bush signed back in 2008 and more so because Iraq announced that US soldiers will lose their legal immunity at the end of this year.

Legal immunity doesn't mean pulling out. And to be honest Obama has actually gotten things done.


He's killed a lot of people if that's what you mean "by getting things done". I'm not questioning his credentials in killing brown people, he's a grade A murderer.

This withdrawal date was agreed upon by Bush and Iraq is making sure we listen by not granting legal immunity to US military personal after December 31st. Obama hasn't suddenly seen the light and decided to give peace a chance. He lied during his campaign and this doesn't change any of it.

I don't support nation building or world policing no matter who is in office btw



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21 Oct 2011, 5:18 pm

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Actually whilst I am at it Rush Limbaugh was complaining about the same thing at the same time that the Libyan Army was defeating the Gadhaffites in Sirte, about the USA being involved in word [sic] policing too much. Blatant hypocrite. Not to mention a straight up idiot. The man has no sense of competence, only his ideological leanings.


I'm pretty sure you meant to say "world policing", but yeah. Rush Limbaugh is an idiot and a hypocrite. That fact doesn't say much for those who quote him as an authority on anything either.


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21 Oct 2011, 5:20 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE


Jacoby, Obama is pulling out of Iraq which we actually have a legit reason to be in, because we made the mess when we took out Saddam, the responsible thing is to clean up after ourselves rather than let Iran seize power, hell Iraq doesn't even have an airforce currently.


Obama isn't doing any of that. Troops are leaving Iraq because of the Status of Forces agreement that Bush signed back in 2008 and more so because Iraq announced that US soldiers will lose their legal immunity at the end of this year.

Legal immunity doesn't mean pulling out. And to be honest Obama has actually gotten things done.


Yeah and Iran is doing its best to destabilize Iraq.


Are you making a point? Then please state it.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:22 pm

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Actually whilst I am at it Rush Limbaugh was complaining about the same thing at the same time that the Libyan Army was defeating the Gadhaffites in Sirte, about the USA being involved in word [sic] policing too much. Blatant hypocrite. Not to mention a straight up idiot. The man has no sense of competence, only his ideological leanings.


I'm pretty sure you meant to say "world policing", but yeah. Rush Limbaugh is an idiot and a hypocrite. That fact doesn't say much for those who quote him as an authority on anything either.


Please don't point out small typos. It's not very polite.



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21 Oct 2011, 5:25 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The LRA are a terrorist group but this is still one more conflict we don't need to stick our hand into. We're engaged in conflicts in how many countries now? 8? This is getting ridiculous. Obama is the ultimate neocon.

NO MORE NATION BUILDING NO MORE WORLD POLICE


Jacoby, Obama is pulling out of Iraq which we actually have a legit reason to be in, because we made the mess when we took out Saddam, the responsible thing is to clean up after ourselves rather than let Iran seize power, hell Iraq doesn't even have an airforce currently.


Obama isn't doing any of that. Troops are leaving Iraq because of the Status of Forces agreement that Bush signed back in 2008 and more so because Iraq announced that US soldiers will lose their legal immunity at the end of this year.

Legal immunity doesn't mean pulling out. And to be honest Obama has actually gotten things done.


Yeah and Iran is doing its best to destabilize Iraq.


Are you making a point? Then please state it.


Obama had plenty of chances to get the agreement renewed but he sent an idiot to be ambassador and made no effort to get the agreement renewed.

Also we want a government in there that doesn't hate us, we don't need Iran in there using the oil money from Iraq to finance more terrorist attacks, and I don't want to have to have troops going back there 10 years from now because we have to take out a homicidal lunatic all over again.