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22 Oct 2011, 7:19 pm

Gedrene wrote:
Lebanon's problems stem from religious internicine conflict and their inability to work with each other.


Seeing as Boo lives there, I think his opinions on Lebanon are worth consideration.


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22 Oct 2011, 7:53 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
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Lebanon's problems stem from religious internicine conflict and their inability to work with each other.


Seeing as Boo lives there, I think his opinions on Lebanon are worth consideration.


"Worth consideration" doesn't mean "beyond criticism". It's well noted that in some situations a little distance ensures a more objective perspective. Plus, given some of Boo's comments on the London Riots, I really doubt is clarity of thought when it comes to politics (domestic or foreign).


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22 Oct 2011, 9:03 pm

A lot of Filipinos similarly feel that they would have been better off if they had not become independent of the USA.

For one thing, the Philippines has had a long history of corrupt governments, and they feel that if they had remained under the USA then the level of corruption that they experienced would not have been allowed.

For another thing, a lot of Filipinos want to migrate to the USA, which would have been a lot easier if they had not become independent.



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22 Oct 2011, 9:46 pm

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Yes, I think Lebanon's independence was a big mistake.

Yes, that's true, we should have convert to a French territory instead, like the Guadalupe Island.

We were so close, but noooo, nationalists ruined it all. They wanted a 'free' Lebanon.

We would be French citizens by now, and part of the EU too, we would have the EURO currency instead of our dollarized Lira. French social security, French economy and most importantly French national security.

No one of our neighbors would dare to screw with us because France would f**k them. The Israeli jets wouldn't dare to fly in our skies, the Syrian tanks wouldn't dare to violate our borders, Hezbollah wouldn't have been even created by Iran, and the Baath's Lebanese dogs wouldn't wield any power, that if they would ever exist in the French Lebanon.


You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....



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22 Oct 2011, 9:53 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Yes, I think Lebanon's independence was a big mistake.

Yes, that's true, we should have convert to a French territory instead, like the Guadalupe Island.

We were so close, but noooo, nationalists ruined it all. They wanted a 'free' Lebanon.

We would be French citizens by now, and part of the EU too, we would have the EURO currency instead of our dollarized Lira. French social security, French economy and most importantly French national security.

No one of our neighbors would dare to screw with us because France would f**k them. The Israeli jets wouldn't dare to fly in our skies, the Syrian tanks wouldn't dare to violate our borders, Hezbollah wouldn't have been even created by Iran, and the Baath's Lebanese dogs wouldn't wield any power, that if they would ever exist in the French Lebanon.


You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....


the French have the 3rd biggest military budget in the world and the biggest in Europe.
Sarkozy has only improved Frances reputation with morons.
Where do you get your info? Right wing stand-up comedians.
Start doing some research your uninformed blabbering does not help your side.


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22 Oct 2011, 10:02 pm

Interesting pov.

The real problem is that Lebanon, like most countries in both the Mideast and in Africa is an artificial creation. Different ethnic groups forced together in a shot gun wedding by foriegn powers into one geographic unit thats called upon to function as a nation.

In the Middle East only Iran, Egypt, Turkey, and Israel, are real nations ( and even each of them have fringe minority groups).

Like Iraq, Lebanon is a jury rigged juristiction created when the European powers divied up the old Ottoman Empire at the end of the first World War.

But its alot smaller than Iraq. In fact its even slightly smaller than Israel.
So its both jury-rigged AND small.

As I understand it the Muslims populaton grew and came to outnumber the Christian population and bang- in the seveneties the country suffered a terminal identity crises in the form of a civil war.
Like you said- it been a battle ground not only for its own factions -but for the armies of Syria, Israel, and the PLO.

So you're suggesting that the cure for this disease is - a return to the very cause of the disease!
A return to Colonialism.

Oddly enough I can see your logic. The Christian groups would be happy under French rule. The Muslims concievably might be presuaded to accept it as well if they were enfranchised into the French welfare state. You know your muslim neighbors better than I do. But the growing arab muslim population in France itsself seems to have problems integrating.

I dunno.



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22 Oct 2011, 10:03 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Yes, I think Lebanon's independence was a big mistake.

Yes, that's true, we should have convert to a French territory instead, like the Guadalupe Island.

We were so close, but noooo, nationalists ruined it all. They wanted a 'free' Lebanon.

We would be French citizens by now, and part of the EU too, we would have the EURO currency instead of our dollarized Lira. French social security, French economy and most importantly French national security.

No one of our neighbors would dare to screw with us because France would f**k them. The Israeli jets wouldn't dare to fly in our skies, the Syrian tanks wouldn't dare to violate our borders, Hezbollah wouldn't have been even created by Iran, and the Baath's Lebanese dogs wouldn't wield any power, that if they would ever exist in the French Lebanon.


You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....


the French have the 3rd biggest military budget in the world and the biggest in Europe.
Sarkozy has only improved Frances reputation with morons.
Where do you get your info? Right wing stand-up comedians.
Start doing some research your uninformed blabbering does not help your side.


Actually, I would suggest you do your research. the French are considered the laughingstock in the military community for a reason.

Q: what the Frenchmen can do in 5 minutes?
A: Surrender twice.

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/artic ... _jokes.asp



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22 Oct 2011, 10:07 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Yes, I think Lebanon's independence was a big mistake.

Yes, that's true, we should have convert to a French territory instead, like the Guadalupe Island.

We were so close, but noooo, nationalists ruined it all. They wanted a 'free' Lebanon.

We would be French citizens by now, and part of the EU too, we would have the EURO currency instead of our dollarized Lira. French social security, French economy and most importantly French national security.

No one of our neighbors would dare to screw with us because France would f**k them. The Israeli jets wouldn't dare to fly in our skies, the Syrian tanks wouldn't dare to violate our borders, Hezbollah wouldn't have been even created by Iran, and the Baath's Lebanese dogs wouldn't wield any power, that if they would ever exist in the French Lebanon.


You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....


the French have the 3rd biggest military budget in the world and the biggest in Europe.
Sarkozy has only improved Frances reputation with morons.
Where do you get your info? Right wing stand-up comedians.
Start doing some research your uninformed blabbering does not help your side.


Actually, I would suggest you do your research. the French are considered the laughingstock in the military community for a reason.

Q: what the Frenchmen can do in 5 minutes?
A: Surrender twice.

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/artic ... _jokes.asp


Thank you for proving my point. :lol: :lol:


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22 Oct 2011, 10:14 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Yes, I think Lebanon's independence was a big mistake.

Yes, that's true, we should have convert to a French territory instead, like the Guadalupe Island.

We were so close, but noooo, nationalists ruined it all. They wanted a 'free' Lebanon.

We would be French citizens by now, and part of the EU too, we would have the EURO currency instead of our dollarized Lira. French social security, French economy and most importantly French national security.

No one of our neighbors would dare to screw with us because France would f**k them. The Israeli jets wouldn't dare to fly in our skies, the Syrian tanks wouldn't dare to violate our borders, Hezbollah wouldn't have been even created by Iran, and the Baath's Lebanese dogs wouldn't wield any power, that if they would ever exist in the French Lebanon.


You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....


the French have the 3rd biggest military budget in the world and the biggest in Europe.
Sarkozy has only improved Frances reputation with morons.
Where do you get your info? Right wing stand-up comedians.
Start doing some research your uninformed blabbering does not help your side.


Actually, I would suggest you do your research. the French are considered the laughingstock in the military community for a reason.

Q: what the Frenchmen can do in 5 minutes?
A: Surrender twice.

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/artic ... _jokes.asp


Thank you for proving my point. :lol: :lol:


Except for the fact I heard about the French Jokes from a military historian that had once served in the US military.

I'm not kidding when I'm saying that the French are considered to be a joke.



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22 Oct 2011, 10:23 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....


the French have the 3rd biggest military budget in the world and the biggest in Europe.
Sarkozy has only improved Frances reputation with morons.
Where do you get your info? Right wing stand-up comedians.
Start doing some research your uninformed blabbering does not help your side.


Actually, I would suggest you do your research. the French are considered the laughingstock in the military community for a reason.

Q: what the Frenchmen can do in 5 minutes?
A: Surrender twice.

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/artic ... _jokes.asp


Thank you for proving my point. :lol: :lol:


Except for the fact I heard about the French Jokes from a military historian that had once served in the US military.

I'm not kidding when I'm saying that the French are considered to be a joke.


Oh some moron dumb enough to "serve" in the military sez so oh, in that case. :lol: :lol:
That is called an appeal to authority or argumentum ad verecundiam it is a logical fallacy.
The french have a big "F"ing military and post WWII our record is worse than theirs.
except we waste over 10 times as much of our taxpayers money to pretend our country has a big dick
than they do.


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22 Oct 2011, 10:26 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....


the French have the 3rd biggest military budget in the world and the biggest in Europe.
Sarkozy has only improved Frances reputation with morons.
Where do you get your info? Right wing stand-up comedians.
Start doing some research your uninformed blabbering does not help your side.


Actually, I would suggest you do your research. the French are considered the laughingstock in the military community for a reason.

Q: what the Frenchmen can do in 5 minutes?
A: Surrender twice.

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/artic ... _jokes.asp


Thank you for proving my point. :lol: :lol:


Except for the fact I heard about the French Jokes from a military historian that had once served in the US military.

I'm not kidding when I'm saying that the French are considered to be a joke.


Oh some moron dumb enough to "serve" in the military sez so oh, in that case. :lol: :lol:
That is called an appeal to authority or argumentum ad verecundiam it is a logical fallacy.
The french have a big "F"ing military and post WWII our record is worse than theirs.
except we waste over 10 times as much of our taxpayers money to pretend our country has a big dick
than they do.


Thank you for showing your complete disrespect and disdain for the men and women in uniform. I had suspected that this was your real opinion of people that put their lives on the line for this country, but wasn't going to make that accusation, nice to see that I had read you accurately (though it is kinda sad too).



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22 Oct 2011, 10:40 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....


the French have the 3rd biggest military budget in the world and the biggest in Europe.
Sarkozy has only improved Frances reputation with morons.
Where do you get your info? Right wing stand-up comedians.
Start doing some research your uninformed blabbering does not help your side.


Actually, I would suggest you do your research. the French are considered the laughingstock in the military community for a reason.

Q: what the Frenchmen can do in 5 minutes?
A: Surrender twice.

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/artic ... _jokes.asp


Thank you for proving my point. :lol: :lol:


Except for the fact I heard about the French Jokes from a military historian that had once served in the US military.

I'm not kidding when I'm saying that the French are considered to be a joke.


Oh some moron dumb enough to "serve" in the military sez so oh, in that case. :lol: :lol:
That is called an appeal to authority or argumentum ad verecundiam it is a logical fallacy.
The french have a big "F"ing military and post WWII our record is worse than theirs.
except we waste over 10 times as much of our taxpayers money to pretend our country has a big dick
than they do.


Thank you for showing your complete disrespect and disdain for the men and women in uniform. I had suspected that this was your real opinion of people that put their lives on the line for this country, but wasn't going to make that accusation, nice to see that I had read you accurately (though it is kinda sad too).


Suspected? I have said it outright for ages.
I have great respect for people who put their lives on the line for others
I just think there are more people who do that on the picket line than the front lines of a useless war.
Name the war and name the freedom we gained from it.
The military is the biggest waster of public money no one gains anything form these welfare queens
in camouflage unless you accept Keynesian spending.
What you made is an Emotional Appeal it is also a logical fallacy.
when you get around to using logic give me a heads up.


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23 Oct 2011, 6:22 am

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You're kidding right, you do realize France's reputation from a military standpoint is a joke. They are the only country in the world to lose two wars to Italy, They have a reputation for running away like cowards. gross incompetitence, charging in like morons thinking it will be a glorious charge (Hundred Years War they tended to be wiped out by armies that were about 1/10th the French fighting strength), or continually making the same mistakes in combat again and again.

In all honesty I think the Canadian military could beat the snot out of the entire French military. Granted the current French Prime Minister has improved their reputation somewhat, but still you guys would have been invaded by another country anyways....


The French army once conquered most of Europe, too.

Also, I wouldn't mess with the French Foreign Legion.


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23 Oct 2011, 6:27 am

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Yes, I think Lebanon's independence was a big mistake.

Yes, that's true, we should have convert to a French territory instead, like the Guadalupe Island.

We were so close, but noooo, nationalists ruined it all. They wanted a 'free' Lebanon.

We would be French citizens by now, and part of the EU too, we would have the EURO currency instead of our dollarized Lira. French social security, French economy and most importantly French national security.


Ask the Mahorans and then the Comorians how they feel about being French and being independent respectively. People in Mayotte pray to Allah daily for being sensible enough to remain under the French tricolour and Mayotte is now a full part of France, like Guadeloupe and Paris.



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23 Oct 2011, 6:29 am

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But the growing arab muslim population in France itsself seems to have problems integrating.


The French public would never willingly accept more Muslims into its national population.



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Thank you for showing your complete disrespect and disdain for the men and women in uniform. I had suspected that this was your real opinion of people that put their lives on the line for this country, but wasn't going to make that accusation, nice to see that I had read you accurately (though it is kinda sad too).


You giant f***ing hypocrite. You just mocked the french so hard with complete disregard for the lives they lost you execrable and self-sanctimous jackhead. The other guy makes out some good and acceptable points about the US military's flagging reputation and then you make some ham-handed and hypocritical argument about mocking the US army.

You sick monster.