23 Oct 2011, 6:46 pm
23 Oct 2011, 7:22 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Unlike legitimate news sources, Fox News deliberately lies and distorts the truth, and has very little credibility or objectivity.
If you look at http://mediamatters.org/
you will find quite a lot of news stories that have been exposed as distortions from across the board. Fox News is one of the biggest violators.
If you look at http://mediamatters.org/
you will find quite a lot of news stories that have been exposed as distortions from across the board. Fox News is one of the biggest violators.
Isn't there a push for the IRS to revoke mediamatters nonprofit status where they don't pay taxes...
And who is doing the pushing?
And, regardless of their for-profit/non-profit status, they have still been successful in revealing Fox News lies.
Inuyasha wrote:
Their publicly declared partisan war on Fox News and saying they would pull any tactic to take out Fox News kinda showed that they were in blatent violation of the law.
It isn't yet against the law to find fault with Fox News.
Inuyasha wrote:
“The strategy that we had had toward Fox was basically a strategy of containment,” said Brock, Media Matters’ chairman and founder and a former conservative journalist, adding that the group’s main aim had been to challenge the factual claims of the channel and to attempt to prevent them from reaching the mainstream media.
The new strategy, he said, is a “war on Fox.”
In an interview and a 2010 planning memo shared with POLITICO, Brock listed the fronts on which Media Matters — which he said is operating on a $10 million-plus annual budget — is working to chip away at Fox and its parent company, News Corp. They include its bread-and-butter distribution of embarrassing clips and attempts to rebut Fox points, as well as a series of under-the-radar tactics.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/03 ... z1beRvxIm5
However, in doing this mediamatters is blatently violating tax law concerning their nonprofit status, not that they will be prosecuted until Chicago is kicked out of Washington, no matter how you spin it mediamatter is breaking the law by engaging in such partisan behavior.
Fox News is a for-profit enterprise and thus they can say what they want, but there are rules concerning nonprofits and entities like NPR (which receive tax money), and they are in blatent violation of the law and they don't care.
The new strategy, he said, is a “war on Fox.”
In an interview and a 2010 planning memo shared with POLITICO, Brock listed the fronts on which Media Matters — which he said is operating on a $10 million-plus annual budget — is working to chip away at Fox and its parent company, News Corp. They include its bread-and-butter distribution of embarrassing clips and attempts to rebut Fox points, as well as a series of under-the-radar tactics.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/03 ... z1beRvxIm5
However, in doing this mediamatters is blatently violating tax law concerning their nonprofit status, not that they will be prosecuted until Chicago is kicked out of Washington, no matter how you spin it mediamatter is breaking the law by engaging in such partisan behavior.
Fox News is a for-profit enterprise and thus they can say what they want, but there are rules concerning nonprofits and entities like NPR (which receive tax money), and they are in blatent violation of the law and they don't care.
It sounds more like Fox News is at war with Media Matters.
23 Oct 2011, 7:36 pm
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Unlike legitimate news sources, Fox News deliberately lies and distorts the truth, and has very little credibility or objectivity.
If you look at http://mediamatters.org/
you will find quite a lot of news stories that have been exposed as distortions from across the board. Fox News is one of the biggest violators.
If you look at http://mediamatters.org/
you will find quite a lot of news stories that have been exposed as distortions from across the board. Fox News is one of the biggest violators.
Isn't there a push for the IRS to revoke mediamatters nonprofit status where they don't pay taxes...
And who is doing the pushing?
And, regardless of their for-profit/non-profit status, they have still been successful in revealing Fox News lies.
So you're telling me it's okay to break the law and/or use tax money to support a partisan cause because it is something you favor?
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Their publicly declared partisan war on Fox News and saying they would pull any tactic to take out Fox News kinda showed that they were in blatent violation of the law.
It isn't yet against the law to find fault with Fox News.
It is against the law for a supposed educational nonprofit to declare a partisan war against another news agency and attempt to get people of a certain political ideology elected.
No matter how you try to spin this, Fox News is correct. If mediamatters wants to give up their tax-exempt status and engage in a partisan feud with Fox News, they are welcome to try, but they can't have it both ways.
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
“The strategy that we had had toward Fox was basically a strategy of containment,” said Brock, Media Matters’ chairman and founder and a former conservative journalist, adding that the group’s main aim had been to challenge the factual claims of the channel and to attempt to prevent them from reaching the mainstream media.
The new strategy, he said, is a “war on Fox.”
In an interview and a 2010 planning memo shared with POLITICO, Brock listed the fronts on which Media Matters — which he said is operating on a $10 million-plus annual budget — is working to chip away at Fox and its parent company, News Corp. They include its bread-and-butter distribution of embarrassing clips and attempts to rebut Fox points, as well as a series of under-the-radar tactics.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/03 ... z1beRvxIm5
However, in doing this mediamatters is blatently violating tax law concerning their nonprofit status, not that they will be prosecuted until Chicago is kicked out of Washington, no matter how you spin it mediamatter is breaking the law by engaging in such partisan behavior.
Fox News is a for-profit enterprise and thus they can say what they want, but there are rules concerning nonprofits and entities like NPR (which receive tax money), and they are in blatent violation of the law and they don't care.
The new strategy, he said, is a “war on Fox.”
In an interview and a 2010 planning memo shared with POLITICO, Brock listed the fronts on which Media Matters — which he said is operating on a $10 million-plus annual budget — is working to chip away at Fox and its parent company, News Corp. They include its bread-and-butter distribution of embarrassing clips and attempts to rebut Fox points, as well as a series of under-the-radar tactics.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/03 ... z1beRvxIm5
However, in doing this mediamatters is blatently violating tax law concerning their nonprofit status, not that they will be prosecuted until Chicago is kicked out of Washington, no matter how you spin it mediamatter is breaking the law by engaging in such partisan behavior.
Fox News is a for-profit enterprise and thus they can say what they want, but there are rules concerning nonprofits and entities like NPR (which receive tax money), and they are in blatent violation of the law and they don't care.
It sounds more like Fox News is at war with Media Matters.
So pointing out that a supposedly non-partisan nonprofit is breaking the law somehow makes Fox News at war with Mediamatters.
What part of mediamatters is breaking the law, do you not understand? People often go to prison for tax-evasion.
23 Oct 2011, 7:48 pm
23 Oct 2011, 7:49 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
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And who is doing the pushing?
And, regardless of their for-profit/non-profit status, they have still been successful in revealing Fox News lies.
So you're telling me it's okay to break the law and/or use tax money to support a partisan cause because it is something you favor?
I never told you that. Read again. "Regardless of their for-profit/non-profit status, they have still been successful in revealing Fox News lies." Even if what they did was "illegal" or "not okay", you cannot deny that they have been successful in revealing Fox News lies.
Rupert Murdoch's phone-hacking scandal clearly broke the law.
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Their publicly declared partisan war on Fox News and saying they would pull any tactic to take out Fox News kinda showed that they were in blatent violation of the law.
It isn't yet against the law to find fault with Fox News.
It is against the law for a supposed educational nonprofit to declare a partisan war against another news agency and attempt to get people of a certain political ideology elected.
You're listening to Fox News lies again. Fox News isn't the only news organization with which Media Matters has taken issue. But, Fox News does lie the most, and therefore gets most of Media Matters attention.
Which law are you accusing Media Matters of breaking?
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No matter how you try to spin this, Fox News is correct.
Again, Fox News is an organization that lies. Simply look up Media Matters to get the correct scoop on things.
Inuyasha wrote:
So pointing out that a supposedly non-partisan nonprofit is breaking the law somehow makes Fox News at war with Mediamatters.
Fox News is clearly targeting Media Matters for having pointed out lies that Fox News has propagated.
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What part of mediamatters is breaking the law, do you not understand? People often go to prison for tax-evasion.
Which law is that? A non-profit organization must not expose lies and corruption on the part of Fox News? I don't believe that any such law exists.
If Media Matters isn't making any profit anyway, then what taxes are they evading?
Lots of Evango-Fascist preachers openly endorse Republican candidates. They take in plenty of money that could be taxed.
23 Oct 2011, 8:08 pm
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
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And who is doing the pushing?
And, regardless of their for-profit/non-profit status, they have still been successful in revealing Fox News lies.
So you're telling me it's okay to break the law and/or use tax money to support a partisan cause because it is something you favor?
I never told you that. Read again. "Regardless of their for-profit/non-profit status, they have still been successful in revealing Fox News lies." Even if what they did was "illegal" or "not okay", you cannot deny that they have been successful in revealing Fox News lies.
Rupert Murdoch's phone-hacking scandal clearly broke the law.
Thus far the phone hack scandal was only from a Tabloid in England and no members of Fox News were involved.
This would be like me blaming you for something your 2nd cousin did.
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Their publicly declared partisan war on Fox News and saying they would pull any tactic to take out Fox News kinda showed that they were in blatent violation of the law.
It isn't yet against the law to find fault with Fox News.
It is against the law for a supposed educational nonprofit to declare a partisan war against another news agency and attempt to get people of a certain political ideology elected.
You're listening to Fox News lies again. Fox News isn't the only news organization with which Media Matters has taken issue. But, Fox News does lie the most, and therefore gets most of Media Matters attention.
Actually, mediamatters has been lieing for years.
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pandabear wrote:
Which law are you accusing Media Matters of breaking?
Their 501(c)(3) status.
http://bigjournalism.com/mdake/2011/06/ ... s-a-501c3/
You may not like this source but it give a pretty good explanation.
pandabear wrote:
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No matter how you try to spin this, Fox News is correct.
Again, Fox News is an organization that lies. Simply look up Media Matters to get the correct scoop on things.
Looks more like mediamatters is lieing and breaking the law.
pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
So pointing out that a supposedly non-partisan nonprofit is breaking the law somehow makes Fox News at war with Mediamatters.
Fox News is clearly targeting Media Matters for having pointed out lies that Fox News has propagated.
You weren't aware of the fact mediamatters is breaking the law as is NPR until I brought this up.
pandabear wrote:
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What part of mediamatters is breaking the law, do you not understand? People often go to prison for tax-evasion.
Which law is that? A non-profit organization must not expose lies and corruption on the part of Fox News? I don't believe that any such law exists.
If Media Matters isn't making any profit anyway, then what taxes are they evading?
Lots of Evango-Fascist preachers openly endorse Republican candidates. They take in plenty of money that could be taxed.
Religious organizations fall into a different category where the tax code is concerned.
Also:
Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.
http://mediamatters.org/p/about_us/
They aren't about telling the truth, they are nothing more than a partisan group trying to smear conservatives.
23 Oct 2011, 8:28 pm
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They haven't been convicted of cheating on taxes. They are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
What you are saying is that anyone who finds fault with Fox News is a criminal, and that it is perfectly okay for Rupert Murdoch to break the law by hacking into private telephones.
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