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26 Oct 2011, 2:52 pm
26 Oct 2011, 2:58 pm
Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
According to early christianity we need to tear down a mosque then rebuild a temple in its place.
And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns
And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns
I don't think the New Testament says anything about destroying any Masque, as Islam didn't even exist till the 7th century.
And as a mainline Protestant (Lutheran to be exact), I don't believe in the rapture.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Check the book of Revelation.
Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.
That is ridiculous and anti-historical but I am very interested in where you come by such a strange notion.
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26 Oct 2011, 3:13 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
According to early christianity we need to tear down a mosque then rebuild a temple in its place.
And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns
And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns
I don't think the New Testament says anything about destroying any Masque, as Islam didn't even exist till the 7th century.
And as a mainline Protestant (Lutheran to be exact), I don't believe in the rapture.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Check the book of Revelation.
Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.
That is ridiculous and anti-historical but I am very interested in where you come by such a strange notion.
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
26 Oct 2011, 3:16 pm
Joker wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
According to early christianity we need to tear down a mosque then rebuild a temple in its place.
And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns
And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns
I don't think the New Testament says anything about destroying any Masque, as Islam didn't even exist till the 7th century.
And as a mainline Protestant (Lutheran to be exact), I don't believe in the rapture.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Check the book of Revelation.
Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.
That is ridiculous and anti-historical but I am very interested in where you come by such a strange notion.
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
give me chapter and verse you crazy nut
26 Oct 2011, 3:18 pm
Joker wrote:
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
Mohommed had his revelation in the earlyh 600s of the common era, over 600 years after Jesus was born.
You are misinformed.
ruveyn
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26 Oct 2011, 3:26 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
According to early christianity we need to tear down a mosque then rebuild a temple in its place.
And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns
And the rapture is supposed to happen befor Christ returns
I don't think the New Testament says anything about destroying any Masque, as Islam didn't even exist till the 7th century.
And as a mainline Protestant (Lutheran to be exact), I don't believe in the rapture.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Check the book of Revelation.
Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.
That is ridiculous and anti-historical but I am very interested in where you come by such a strange notion.
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
give me chapter and verse you crazy nut
Abrahams first son Ismahl who would go on to start the religion of Islam is the transgerrisons that Abraham had to pay for not waiting for God to give him the right women to bare a child.
I guess it doenst state it in a verse but Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion and it did in fact start with Ishmael take a look at this link Lefty.
http://www.therefinersfire.org/ishmael_and_isaac.htm
26 Oct 2011, 3:35 pm
Joker wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
]
Check the book of Revelation.
Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.
Check the book of Revelation.
Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.
That is ridiculous and anti-historical but I am very interested in where you come by such a strange notion.
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
give me chapter and verse you crazy nut
Abrahams first son Ismahl who would go on to start the religion of Islam is the transgerrisons that Abraham had to pay for not waiting for God to give him the right women to bare a child.
I guess it doenst state it in a verse but Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion and it did in fact start with Ishmael take a look at this link Lefty.
http://www.therefinersfire.org/ishmael_and_isaac.htm
That is not even what that crazy-ass article said.
Jews historically and numerically have had more problems caused by Xtians than Muslims.
Ishmael may be the father of the Arabs but Arab != Muslim and Palestinians are not Really Arabs at least
not exclusively.
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26 Oct 2011, 3:39 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
]
Check the book of Revelation.
Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.
Check the book of Revelation.
Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion Judisam is the first then finally Christanity Islam was around befor Muhammad was even born the religion islam started with ishmael.
That is ridiculous and anti-historical but I am very interested in where you come by such a strange notion.
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
give me chapter and verse you crazy nut
Abrahams first son Ismahl who would go on to start the religion of Islam is the transgerrisons that Abraham had to pay for not waiting for God to give him the right women to bare a child.
I guess it doenst state it in a verse but Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion and it did in fact start with Ishmael take a look at this link Lefty.
http://www.therefinersfire.org/ishmael_and_isaac.htm
That is not even what that crazy-ass article said.
Jews historically and numerically have had more problems caused by Xtians than Muslims.
Ishmael may be the father of the Arabs but Arab != Muslim and Palestinians are not Really Arabs at least
not exclusively.
True that's why the articale said mostly Letfy
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26 Oct 2011, 3:43 pm
ruveyn wrote:
Joker wrote:
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
Mohommed had his revelation in the earlyh 600s of the common era, over 600 years after Jesus was born.
You are misinformed.
ruveyn
Mohommed historicaly is a descendant of ishmael making his revelation irrlelavent Islam did not start with Mohommed it begain with Abrahams first born son.
26 Oct 2011, 3:46 pm
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Joker wrote:
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
Mohommed had his revelation in the earlyh 600s of the common era, over 600 years after Jesus was born.
You are misinformed.
ruveyn
Mohommed historicaly is a descendant of ishmael making his revelation irrlelavent Islam did not start with Mohommed it begain with Abrahams first born son.
Your article does not even say that I think you made it up.
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26 Oct 2011, 3:49 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Joker wrote:
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
Mohommed had his revelation in the earlyh 600s of the common era, over 600 years after Jesus was born.
You are misinformed.
ruveyn
Mohommed historicaly is a descendant of ishmael making his revelation irrlelavent Islam did not start with Mohommed it begain with Abrahams first born son.
Your article does not even say that I think you made it up.
That statement didn't have anything to do with the articale
But this one you might like take a look.
http://www.truthinlove.com/references/i ... dants.html
26 Oct 2011, 3:56 pm
Joker wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Joker wrote:
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
Mohommed had his revelation in the earlyh 600s of the common era, over 600 years after Jesus was born.
You are misinformed.
ruveyn
Mohommed historicaly is a descendant of ishmael making his revelation irrlelavent Islam did not start with Mohommed it begain with Abrahams first born son.
Your article does not even say that I think you made it up.
That statement didn't have anything to do with the articale
But this one you might like take a look.
http://www.truthinlove.com/references/i ... dants.html
I say that the Palestinian are Edomites and the descendants of Jewish converts to Islam.
But that does not fit with the rhetoric.
Xtians have always caused more troubles and Deaths for the Jews than Islam has
Just do the math.
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26 Oct 2011, 4:05 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
Joker wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Joker wrote:
It isn't strange but a fact it states so in the old testement and Islam is the second oldest abrahamic religion in the world if you do not believe me look it up for yourself
Mohommed had his revelation in the earlyh 600s of the common era, over 600 years after Jesus was born.
You are misinformed.
ruveyn
Mohommed historicaly is a descendant of ishmael making his revelation irrlelavent Islam did not start with Mohommed it begain with Abrahams first born son.
Your article does not even say that I think you made it up.
That statement didn't have anything to do with the articale
But this one you might like take a look.
http://www.truthinlove.com/references/i ... dants.html
I say that the Palestinian are Edomites and the descendants of Jewish converts to Islam.
But that does not fit with the rhetoric.
Xtians have always caused more troubles and Deaths for the Jews than Islam has
Just do the math.
I love math.I never said anything about muslims causing death to Jews also Jews Muslims and Christians will always be fighting and killing each other.
26 Oct 2011, 4:33 pm
26 Oct 2011, 4:48 pm
codarac wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Because Israel is the first line of defence of the West. It is liberal democracy in an area utterly hostile towards it.
If Israel falls so too will most of Europe. And then we'll all be done for.
If Israel falls so too will most of Europe. And then we'll all be done for.
I once considered myself a "conservative" and I once believed this too, as most good conservatives seem to think they should. It is quite common for people to swallow pre-packaged worldviews whole and end up thinking that if they believe in ABC they must also believe in XYZ, because the they are told the two ideas fall under the same political label.
Where does this idea that Israel's interests are the same as Britain's, Europe's and America's, and that Western conservatives must support Israel really come from? Do you not suppose that much of it might be propaganda spread by Zionist jews themselves, eager to win supporters?
India and Japan are liberal democracies. Are they part of the West too? Was Britain still part of the West before it allowed almost every adult with a pulse to vote in elections?
Regardless of whether Israel survives or not, it would be really quite simple for Europe and America to resist the continuing Third World invasion if the political will were there.
Other than the crazy-ass BNP muddy-thinking and Jew-blaming that glazes even your logical utterances I am in partial agreement. The Idea that the fate of Europe, the U.S. or democracy being intertwined with the fate of Israel does not even
pass the smirk-test. While I do not believe in vast Jewish conspiracies (mostly because I never get an offer to take part in them). Israel, like all other nations has an Agenda and spin it wants put on its narrative
also not worried about the third world invasion.
but cheers and some agreement.
26 Oct 2011, 4:53 pm
JakobVirgil wrote:
but cheers and some agreement.
cheers
