Why I care less about humans than before 2011

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16 Nov 2011, 2:38 pm

I've just read this, Bro, and that was really sad. Having obnoxious ones around you isn't a good one. What they do is really indeed hateful, and the situation is worth your ire. But as with any other thing, good or bad, they will come to pass, and you and your wife would fare better. Just pray and do your thing. Find a better place where you can go, away from those you don't like and near those you love.


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16 Nov 2011, 2:47 pm

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I've just read this, Bro, and that was really sad. Having obnoxious ones around you isn't a good one. What they do is really indeed hateful, and the situation is worth your ire. But as with any other thing, good or bad, they will come to pass, and you and your wife would fare better. Just pray and do your thing. Find a better place where you can go, away from those you don't like and near those you love.


Thanks. We hope to move out to the country someday, but we're economically trapped where we are right now. I wish I could find an employer who will hire me as a regular employee, since then we could finally be able to save money rather than live from paycheck to paycheck. It's just so frustrating. Looking for work always has been for me, first just due to the difficulties in communication of Asperger's which make interviews impassible too often, and then after I lost my job at Walmart it's been even more difficult because employers don't like frank honesty and assume lying when people are honest about jobs they've lost, and then the jerks I've dealt with this year have made it even more "fun" and they just laugh like idiots at my difficulties. Yes, everything will pass as time continues to tick away, I just wish there would be less to wait for the passing thereof.



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16 Nov 2011, 3:27 pm

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You can pick examples of people being nice and courteous, putting on a plastered smile while they take your order and listen patiently while you tell them this that or the other so that they don't get threatened with the loss of employment by their managers. There are certainly genuine instances of humans showing kindness to others too. Nicety is nice, yes, but it is difficult to think of the niceties of humans and their random infrequent acts of courteousness when you actually deal with the crap.
Dude, you have seen me blow my top around here. My temper and loss of all sense of proportion can really get that out-of-hand in real life. It's a hard monster to get under control once it comes out.

Thinking the best of people is the only reason I can restrain myself from going into rages on a regular basis, which I did all through my adolescence. Really, count yourself lucky if you are NOT the kind of person who goes completely bonkers when he loses his cool. It's not pleasant. I'd rather have epilepsy, and I'm glad I don't have to go through it anymore.

But the point is, it works. If you want to get along with people, you have to somehow figure out how to genuinely, without having to fool yourself or make pretend, like them, even though they are a**holes.

I'm not trying to condemn you if you can't. If anyone knows it's not the easiest thing to be patient with people, I do, and I'm lucky enough to live in a quiet, safe neighborhood. I'm lucky in that most people in Raleigh have some degree of class. I'm just meaning to share what worked for me to contain a very serious problem in my own make-up. Most people have just enough of a soul in them that you can manage to forgive their BS if you choose to.

If nothing else works, you can start telling people outright, "Excuse me, I'm thinking very hard right now about how amicable and well disposed I am toward the world in general because it's really too much trouble for me to strangle your neck." Paraphrased to appropos, of course. It works every time.



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16 Nov 2011, 4:09 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
theimperiousdork wrote:
I've just read this, Bro, and that was really sad. Having obnoxious ones around you isn't a good one. What they do is really indeed hateful, and the situation is worth your ire. But as with any other thing, good or bad, they will come to pass, and you and your wife would fare better. Just pray and do your thing. Find a better place where you can go, away from those you don't like and near those you love.


Thanks. We hope to move out to the country someday, but we're economically trapped where we are right now. I wish I could find an employer who will hire me as a regular employee, since then we could finally be able to save money rather than live from paycheck to paycheck. It's just so frustrating. Looking for work always has been for me, first just due to the difficulties in communication of Asperger's which make interviews impassible too often, and then after I lost my job at Walmart it's been even more difficult because employers don't like frank honesty and assume lying when people are honest about jobs they've lost, and then the jerks I've dealt with this year have made it even more "fun" and they just laugh like idiots at my difficulties. Yes, everything will pass as time continues to tick away, I just wish there would be less to wait for the passing thereof.


indeed interviews and finding work in general can be tricky. i've found of late that not speaking in away way negatively of anything, but trying to be as pragmatic as possible in any criticism of anything concerning previous employers and jobs, certainly helps.

good luck with moving to the country, hopefully you've given it full consideration and aren't just viewing it idealistically. there are pros and cons to living in the country.


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16 Nov 2011, 4:28 pm

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
theimperiousdork wrote:
I've just read this, Bro, and that was really sad. Having obnoxious ones around you isn't a good one. What they do is really indeed hateful, and the situation is worth your ire. But as with any other thing, good or bad, they will come to pass, and you and your wife would fare better. Just pray and do your thing. Find a better place where you can go, away from those you don't like and near those you love.


Thanks. We hope to move out to the country someday, but we're economically trapped where we are right now. I wish I could find an employer who will hire me as a regular employee, since then we could finally be able to save money rather than live from paycheck to paycheck. It's just so frustrating. Looking for work always has been for me, first just due to the difficulties in communication of Asperger's which make interviews impassible too often, and then after I lost my job at Walmart it's been even more difficult because employers don't like frank honesty and assume lying when people are honest about jobs they've lost, and then the jerks I've dealt with this year have made it even more "fun" and they just laugh like idiots at my difficulties. Yes, everything will pass as time continues to tick away, I just wish there would be less to wait for the passing thereof.


indeed interviews and finding work in general can be tricky. i've found of late that not speaking in away way negatively of anything, but trying to be as pragmatic as possible in any criticism of anything concerning previous employers and jobs, certainly helps.

good luck with moving to the country, hopefully you've given it full consideration and aren't just viewing it idealistically. there are pros and cons to living in the country.


I may be partially viewing a move away from urban life idealistically, I cannot deny that possibility, but I would rather face the unknown annoyances of dealing with nature than the known annoyances of dealing with human nature.



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16 Nov 2011, 4:55 pm

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I may be partially viewing a move away from urban life idealistically, I cannot deny that possibility, but I would rather face the unknown annoyances of dealing with nature than the known annoyances of dealing with human nature.


i can't help thinking, now, that urban life, and indeed rural life, might be quite different here in the uk that it is in the us of a. i speak only from my own personal experience and the experiences of those around me.

again though, i wish you well, and can only say that you will never know if a certain lifestyle will suit you personally until you give it a go. there is no shame in trying something new only to decide later that it isn't working out, and you may find it is the best move you have ever made, so what have you to lose?


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16 Nov 2011, 4:59 pm

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:

I may be partially viewing a move away from urban life idealistically, I cannot deny that possibility, but I would rather face the unknown annoyances of dealing with nature than the known annoyances of dealing with human nature.


i can't help thinking, now, that urban life, and indeed rural life, might be quite different here in the uk that it is in the us of a. i speak only from my own personal experience and the experiences of those around me.

again though, i wish you well, and can only say that you will never know if a certain lifestyle will suit you personally until you give it a go. there is no shame in trying something new only to decide later that it isn't working out, and you may find it is the best move you have ever made, so what have you to lose?


Thanks. I don't know what life in the countryside of England would be like apart from Agatha Christie stories or C.S. Lewis' novels. There's quite a bit more land and variety of lands in the US, but apart from that I haven't enough real data for proper comparison.



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16 Nov 2011, 6:08 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
peebo wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:

I may be partially viewing a move away from urban life idealistically, I cannot deny that possibility, but I would rather face the unknown annoyances of dealing with nature than the known annoyances of dealing with human nature.


i can't help thinking, now, that urban life, and indeed rural life, might be quite different here in the uk that it is in the us of a. i speak only from my own personal experience and the experiences of those around me.

again though, i wish you well, and can only say that you will never know if a certain lifestyle will suit you personally until you give it a go. there is no shame in trying something new only to decide later that it isn't working out, and you may find it is the best move you have ever made, so what have you to lose?


Thanks. I don't know what life in the countryside of England would be like apart from Agatha Christie stories or C.S. Lewis' novels. There's quite a bit more land and variety of lands in the US, but apart from that I haven't enough real data for proper comparison.


ironically i'm not english, rather, scottish. but nevertheless, don't worry about such intricacies, i'd say you might as well go for it, see how it works out, and if all else fails you can have a fallback plan in place to move back to the city. the idea of living in the country can be nonsensical idealism for some, but who knows, perhaps for yourself it might work out to be the move of a lifetime. i say, go for it, and if it doesn't work out, it was worth the effort to give it a try.


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16 Nov 2011, 6:24 pm

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ironically i'm not english, rather, scottish. but nevertheless, don't worry about such intricacies,


Sorry about that anyway.

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i'd say you might as well go for it, see how it works out, and if all else fails you can have a fallback plan in place to move back to the city. the idea of living in the country can be nonsensical idealism for some, but who knows, perhaps for yourself it might work out to be the move of a lifetime. i say, go for it, and if it doesn't work out, it was worth the effort to give it a try.


Thanks for the advice. One foreseeable annoyance that I do not like are the bugs, such as the mosquitoes I had in plenty to deal with when I sold fireworks this summer for the 4th of July. However, there are still bugs in the city and they tend to migrate indoors for the winter! If I could just deal with fixing vehicles, planting crops, harvesting, and stuff which requires work and diligence but not so much dealing with so many people I would be glad of it. If I could build and invent and study during winter and any spare time during spring through fall, that would also be cool. It would be far better than dealing with looking for work and not finding any and forever having to live underneath unilateral employment contracts. I need a job to be able to save up money though first, because I'm not going to deal with loans for anything anymore. Student loans are bad enough.



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16 Nov 2011, 7:28 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
peebo wrote:
ironically i'm not english, rather, scottish. but nevertheless, don't worry about such intricacies,


Sorry about that anyway.

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i'd say you might as well go for it, see how it works out, and if all else fails you can have a fallback plan in place to move back to the city. the idea of living in the country can be nonsensical idealism for some, but who knows, perhaps for yourself it might work out to be the move of a lifetime. i say, go for it, and if it doesn't work out, it was worth the effort to give it a try.


Thanks for the advice. One foreseeable annoyance that I do not like are the bugs, such as the mosquitoes I had in plenty to deal with when I sold fireworks this summer for the 4th of July. However, there are still bugs in the city and they tend to migrate indoors for the winter! If I could just deal with fixing vehicles, planting crops, harvesting, and stuff which requires work and diligence but not so much dealing with so many people I would be glad of it. If I could build and invent and study during winter and any spare time during spring through fall, that would also be cool. It would be far better than dealing with looking for work and not finding any and forever having to live underneath unilateral employment contracts. I need a job to be able to save up money though first, because I'm not going to deal with loans for anything anymore. Student loans are bad enough.


Canada has a reputation for politeness. (actually they are smug bastards but Americans never catch on) :wink:
You could have the best of both worlds city living and quiet neighbors.


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16 Nov 2011, 7:34 pm

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iamnotaparakeet wrote:
peebo wrote:
ironically i'm not english, rather, scottish. but nevertheless, don't worry about such intricacies,


Sorry about that anyway.

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i'd say you might as well go for it, see how it works out, and if all else fails you can have a fallback plan in place to move back to the city. the idea of living in the country can be nonsensical idealism for some, but who knows, perhaps for yourself it might work out to be the move of a lifetime. i say, go for it, and if it doesn't work out, it was worth the effort to give it a try.


Thanks for the advice. One foreseeable annoyance that I do not like are the bugs, such as the mosquitoes I had in plenty to deal with when I sold fireworks this summer for the 4th of July. However, there are still bugs in the city and they tend to migrate indoors for the winter! If I could just deal with fixing vehicles, planting crops, harvesting, and stuff which requires work and diligence but not so much dealing with so many people I would be glad of it. If I could build and invent and study during winter and any spare time during spring through fall, that would also be cool. It would be far better than dealing with looking for work and not finding any and forever having to live underneath unilateral employment contracts. I need a job to be able to save up money though first, because I'm not going to deal with loans for anything anymore. Student loans are bad enough.


Canada has a reputation for politeness. (actually they are smug bastards but Americans never catch on) :wink:
You could have the best of both worlds city living and quiet neighbors.


How's Canada doing economically? How difficult is it to find work?



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16 Nov 2011, 8:10 pm

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How's Canada doing economically? How difficult is it to find work?


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The unemployment rate in Canada was last reported at 7.3 percent in October of 2011. From 1976 until 2010, Canada's Unemployment Rate averaged 8.53 percent reaching an historical high of 13.10 percent in December of 1982 and a record low of 5.90 percent in September of 2007. The labour force is defined as the number of people employed plus the number unemployed but seeking work. The nonlabour force includes those who are not looking for work, those who are institutionalised and those serving in the military.


http://www.tradingeconomics.com/canada/ ... yment-rate

Winnipeg Free Press wrote:
WINNIPEG — The Canadian and Manitoba jobs markets were headed in opposite directions last month, with Manitoba posting a slight increase in employment levels and Canada suffering its biggest job loss in 2 1/2 years.
Statistics Canada said today that while the Manitoba economy was creating 1,600 new jobs, all of them part-time, in October, the Canadian economy was shedding 54,000 positions, all of them full-time.
Manitoba’s net gain, coupled with the disappearance of nearly 1,000 workers from the provincial labour force, pushed down the provincial unemployment rate by three-tenths of a percentage point to 5.2 per cent, the agency said.
And Canada’s hefty loss — it was the biggest one-month drop since March 2009, when the global economy was in the midst of the worst recession in decades — drove up the national unemployment rate two notches to 7.3 per cent.
One piece of bad news in the Manitoba jobs report was the loss of 3,500 full-time jobs during the month. But it didn’t have a negative impact on the unemployment rate because those losses were more than offset by a gain of 5,100 new part-time positions, the StatsCan numbers show.
Canada’s surprising bleak jobs report came amid persistent fears that Europe’s debt crisis, the weak U.S. recovery and slower Asian growth will hit Canada.
The report was even more disturbing in the details, as all the losses and more were in the full-time category and in the goods producing sector.
In all 71,700 full-time jobs vanished during the month — Ontario alone shed 75,400 — as part-time employment rose slightly, making the headline number appear more palatable.
The Canadian dollar fell sharply on the news to 98.13 US, down about a full cent.
Economists had expected a weak October after September’s surprising 61,000 pick-up, although that was somewhat inflated by returning education workers. But the consensus was for nothing worse than a moderate increase of 15,000.
As it turned out, the October report showed the biggest decline since 2009, when 61,000 jobs were shed in March. However, the magnitude of the decline was nowhere near the 129,000 jobs lost in January 2009 and last month’s losses followed two years of gradual employment gains in Canada.
Statistics Canada pointed out that employment is still up 237,000 in the last year, but the last four months has seen virtually no increase in employment overall.


http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breaki ... 38238.html

The Canadian job market is better than the US job market, but it's not at it's peak. Manitoba's job market is outperforming the Canadian average.


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16 Nov 2011, 8:13 pm

Thanks MP. Would there be any difficulty for in particular for immigrants to find work in Canada?



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16 Nov 2011, 8:21 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Thanks MP. Would there be any difficulty for in particular for immigrants to find work in Canada?


It would probably be difficult to immigrate to Canada, as immigration is capped at 250,000 people per year.

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Have a look at http://www.cic.gc.ca and read the whole website for yourself.

It is extremely difficult to immigrate to Canada. You have to qualify to immigrate as we don't take just anyone who applies. There is a self-assessment quiz you can take to see if you qualify and you would need a score of at least 67 in order to just begin the hugely long process.

A bachelors in communication may qualify you from an educational point of view but it will not guarantee you a job. We're in the throes of a very serious recession and we already have lots and lots of people with your qualifications who are also looking for jobs. With hundreds of thousands of people already having lost their jobs, what few positions there are out there will not go to any foreign trained person but to a qualified Canadian citizen. Sorry but that's the way it is here and everywhere else.

Canada already has about 925,000 applications already and as we only accept about 250,000 new qualified immigrants each year, I think you can see just how difficult and time consuming such a venture would be for you.


http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/in ... 556AAYVxgd

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/index.asp


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16 Nov 2011, 8:30 pm

Although it can be easy to immigrate if you score well on the basis of the "points system".

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Yes, it is very easy to immigrate to Canada. If you qualify under any category of Canadian immigration then it’s quite easy, particularly comparing to immigrate to other developed countries. Canadian immigration authorities made a point-based system where every applicant can be evaluated through his age, qualification, work experience (In 38 defined professions) , language skills and some other parameters defined by CIC.


http://immig-canada.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... anada.html

Finally found the test

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/ ... /index.asp


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