reverse racism?
Alot of things mother nature puts into life's DNA, namely for this so-called intelligent species, are destructive, irrational behaviors. Hate can go totally outside of race into other things like sexual orientation, disability, nationality, religion (or lack of), nuero diversity.... The bigger the mother tribe gets, the more it will splinter into baby tribes within the mother tribe. And the mother will continue pitting her children against one another, because this is how life seems to operate.
My biggest concern for the world is that some day we can all think with logick and create a world free of suffering, war, division, hunger, and disease. A world where all people are equal, where everyone looks out for their neighbor...... But I know this is merely a dream, it will never happen. Still I like to go to this place in my mind, often.....
The world is the world and heaven is heaven.Here on earth,there must be suffering.We should seek to relieve it for others and us,but we will never be without it.Suffering is like a spicy ingredient without which some foods just don't taste good...If there was no suffering,there would be no love and no caring for others.
The black people in this country are very rude to be honest. I got spat on, hurled abuse at, intimidated for doing nothing but walking past them. (and having white skin)
They're always whining about white people being racist, they should look in the mirror. Dickheads. Some of them are cool, but a lot of them aren't.
I think if everyone interbred till we were all the same color, there would be no racism. The thing that gets me is the utter hypocracy that comes out of not only race division, but division on the whole, be it disability, race, religion, nationality, sexual orientation, nuero diversities, political affiliations, or whatever.... People from tribe a get angry because they were oppressed, then when theyr no longer oppressed they'll jump right onto the bandwagon with others to oppress a different group. Like, the oppressed becoming the oppressors.
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I find the term 'Reverse Racism' to be oxymoronic as it implys racism against white people, when at face value it implies a good thing.-The lack of racism.
On the other hand, 'racism' as such is misleading term due to the fact that lumps the physical traits of differant races along side cultural differances of people from those diferant races.
Racism as such really isn't an issue of race, so much as it is the tension that arises when people of differant cultural and class backgrounds interact, and when those cultural and class perceptions induce social friction due to suspicion of 'The Other', (IE, those who are not of ones' own social culture or class) as well as the differance of expression of values between those cultures.
Racism is basically a gross generalisation of those cultural differances, and frictions induced by those differances by delineating those differances along the lines of skin color , and physical appearance. --Which is rather a long winded way of saying that racism is complete s**t, and that the reverse of racism is a beneficial thing for all.
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[quote="Fogman"]I find the term 'Reverse Racism' to be oxymoronic as it implys racism against white people, when at face value it implies a good thing.-The lack of racism.[quote]
It seems like your saying that only whites are racist, which is the biggest load of pc bull crap I've ever heard. My best friend is black, my next best friend is purto rican, and I have friends of all colors. But, to assume that no racism goes against whites also is STUPID. Obviously you've never wandered through the ghetto (assuming your a white guy here). I've been robbed at gun point for the sole fact that I was a random white man. i mean, some rap endorses this mentality too, ever seen gangsta rap videos where like 10 black guys gang up on 1 white guy? Our society makes it "ok" to be racist against whites. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm somewhat guilty myself of buying into it, I mean I love the Shappel Show. But, racism is racism, reguardless of who'se being racist against who.
Look man, I'm gonna blow your whole stupid little pc thing wide open here, ya ready? Ok, here it goes. A human is a human, reguardless of what color their skin is. If I white man can be racist, then why couldn't a black man? or a brown man?
Don't give me this "only the ones who hold power can be racist" crap either. Because for one, my mom works with nothing but black people, and she is always having the entire work load dumped on her while they slack off, they use her as a scapegoat, and a black friend of my mom's has even said the reason they mess with her (my mom) is because she's white. Also consider the fact that since 9/11, blacks have risen up to gain alot more jobs. Also consider that racism isn't always about who holds power, because the job market has nothing to do with violent crimes.
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It seems like your saying that only whites are racist, which is the biggest load of pc bull crap I've ever heard. My best friend is black, my next best friend is purto rican, and I have friends of all colors. But, to assume that no racism goes against whites also is STUPID. Obviously you've never wandered through the ghetto (assuming your a white guy here). I've been robbed at gun point for the sole fact that I was a random white man. i mean, some rap endorses this mentality too, ever seen gangsta rap videos where like 10 black guys gang up on 1 white guy? Our society makes it "ok" to be racist against whites. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm somewhat guilty myself of buying into it, I mean I love the Shappel Show. But, racism is racism, reguardless of who'se being racist against who.
Look man, I'm gonna blow your whole stupid little pc thing wide open here, ya ready? Ok, here it goes. A human is a human, reguardless of what color their skin is. If I white man can be racist, then why couldn't a black man? or a brown man?
Don't give me this "only the ones who hold power can be racist" crap either. Because for one, my mom works with nothing but black people, and she is always having the entire work load dumped on her while they slack off, they use her as a scapegoat, and a black friend of my mom's has even said the reason they mess with her (my mom) is because she's white. Also consider the fact that since 9/11, blacks have risen up to gain alot more jobs. Also consider that racism isn't always about who holds power, because the job market has nothing to do with violent crimes.
Here, read this part of my posting again for posterity:
Racism as such really isn't an issue of race, so much as it is the tension that arises when people of differant cultural and class backgrounds interact, and when those cultural and class perceptions induce social friction due to suspicion of 'The Other', (IE, those who are not of ones' own social culture or class) as well as the differance of expression of values between those cultures.
Racism is basically a gross generalisation of those cultural differances, and frictions induced by those differances by delineating those differances along the lines of skin color , and physical appearance. --Which is rather a long winded way of saying that racism is complete s**t, and that the reverse of racism is a beneficial thing for all.
FYI, I've spent several years living "In the 'hood" , and where I live right now is only marginally better. Like you, I have also been robbed by black people ( Who I think were Crack Addicts, as it happened in front of a Motel that was frequented by crackheads), probably because I was white, and therefore percieved to have money. --They got all of the $8 in my pocket.
Sure I've run across many black people who for whatever reason feel compelled to reduce themselves to being a stereotype, however I also know and work with many who do not do this, however the point of my original posting was to agree that racism such as it is sucks, and it would be better if everybody could get over the BS, and get down to progress. --Which again is the reverse of racism.
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I'm against racism in any form. I have plenty of black and brown friends, as well as white friends. I never look at someone's skin color, I judge people by how they conduct themselves.
But racism does go many ways, and yes, white people can be victims of it too. My mom is contantly dealing with being singled out at work because she works around only blacks. I've even heard of blacks dividing themselves by "light-skinned" and "dark-skinned". White people do this too, though we don't attach much racial pride to it because we don't really have a since of racial identity like other races. But you know, there are red necks, metal heads, preps, etc etc.... That's also another possibility why whites have no racial identity because we lack a unifying culture, though I think it would be stupid for us to try and make a racial identity for ourselves. It would just further divide things, and it's not like white people have a mountain to climb.
If anything blacks aren't the main victim of racism anymore ever since 9/11, now it's the arabs. But yeah, my point in this post is, why call it "reverse racism" when someone of ethnicity is being racist against whites? Why not just call it racism?
Also, I understand what my forefathers did to blacks, and it was wrong. I am ashamed that my ancestors took other human beings as slaves. But, blacks were enslaved by other blacks before white people even made any signifigant contact with them. They were sold off to white men by black slave owners in Africa. And to this day black people still enslave black people in Africa. As evil as it was what my ancestors did, and I am in no way justifying their evil deeds, had we not brought the blacks over they might still be bound into slavery, or dying of hunger and disease. Plus some white people helped the blacks to become free, the underground railroad could not have worked if white land owners didn't give them a place to lay low during the day time.
The way I say it is racism is stupid period, rather the victim is white, black, brown, asian, native american, or whatever. We're all human beings. There is no superior race, only superior individuals.
Well, there, its the same in England. I must admit though that I do hate people. I can't say that I'm all peace-and-love because quite frankly, I hate everyone. My hate has an equal oppurtunity policy. Here, if someobody DECIDES that red traffic lights or rainy days where you forgot your umbrella is racist, then it is and laws must be passed to prevent it. I kid you not.
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Ok then fogman, I apologize, I misunderstood you. But, "reverse" racism is still racism though. The politically correct bum wipes have to make up a different word for it because theyr afraid to call a spade a spade. But I agree with your point that everyone needs to just get along, stop acting like theyr superior or something.
I gotcha now fogman, you basically gave the term "reverse racism" a new definition. However, the standard definition is still racism against white people...... Honestly I think inter-racial relationships could be a good thing, because once people all become the same color there will no longer be a racial division. But, then again, they'll just make up something new to fight over, or double over on religious tensions or something of that nature.
if a black commits a crime against a white person it is a hatecrime.
take in mind that blacks rob whites usally becasue whites have money, in their way of thinking.
i think every black that commits a crime against a white sould be charged with a hate crime. trust me on this, if a black commits a crime against me i will tell the cops it was a hate crime. blacks suffer from the new hatecrime laws worse then whites on average becasue whites commit less them 1% of all violent crimes. statistically whites do not commit crimes according to the data. the only reason that whites appeare at all on the stats is becasue when a hispanic commits a crime the cops list them as white.
i get a kick out of people that talk about hatecrimes. becasue almost every single hatecrime agaisnt blacks that is listed as a hate crime was done by a hispanic.
a note to objectors. if you want to prove me wrong look up what i am tlaking about first. in collage a FBI officer went in to great length about hatecrimes and the backlash it was against blacks and hispanics. according to the FBI white hispanics are the reason that a white crime rate exists at all..
i personally do not consider hispanics to be whites or caucasions they are mixed race people. if the cops when arresting hispanics would put mixed for race a proposal that has merrit, the white crime rate would drop to less then 1%. the FBI agent said that white europeans are not even 1% of the crime in america. the hispanics flipped out. he said to them that they want to be seperate from whites racially and if that happend then the crime stats would look really bad agaisnt hispanics.
the FBI agent said almost all of the hatecrimes arrests made in america are blacks and hispanics, when hte law was written it was made to protect them but it actually backfired. blacks and hispanics are getting 10-30 additional years on sentances that normally would get the m3-5 years. a simple assult charge is getting many blacks alot of time in prison.
i know some one will filp out on me but that is exactlly the responce that the government wants.. if some one was really abotu equality and racial rights they would want hate crimes offf hte books. hate crimes are designed against blacks nad hispanics. i read on some whtie power web sites about them crying about hate criem laws and after a while they started seeing a trend that blacks and hispanics are the ones getting hatecriems charges against them.
hatecrime laws another score for the hatemonger whites in the democrat party.
