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29 Nov 2011, 12:29 pm

Ragtime wrote:

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ruveyn wrote:

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1000Knives wrote:

Whatever, I'd vote for Herman Cain regardless, either him or Ron Paul.

I could not vote for Ron Paul. He is no warrior. He has not got the killer instinct we need if we have to go to war.

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Whereas, in all fairness, Barack Obama has proven that he does.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

He did green light the killing of Osam bin Laden. But he is otherwise a poor manager. I would not vote for him. Besides, he is ideologically too much under the influence and hate-America types like Saul Alinsky. I think, in his gut, Obama dislikes the capitalist system. He is doing much to destroy it.

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Or maybe he's trying to include the rest of us in the benefits of capitalism.

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I didn't realize there is a group in America who is barred from participating in capitalism. :?:

Oh, right, the unemployed -- the number that has continuously remained high under the Obama administration.
Those are the only people who are not participating in capitalism.

Considering that Wall Street executives have seen their salary skyrocket into the millions, leaving a huge gap between them and the majority of Americans whose middle class standing is slipping away, yes, a great many Americans are increasingly being left out of the benefits of the capitalist system. And that isn't just a symptom of Obama's administration, but rather, something he's inherited from his predecessors. And what are ordinary people to do to remedy this situation? Republicans will spout idiocy like that they're supposed to start their own businesses to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. But this Horatio Alger s**t is nothing more than just new "opium for the masses."

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29 Nov 2011, 1:04 pm

I'm a little surprised at the news, but have read a few times now that Herman Cain might be reassessing his candidacy. After this latest accusation, he might be deciding it's best to move out of the spot light.

"Report: Cain Reassessing Candidacy"

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/ ... candidacy/

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29 Nov 2011, 1:37 pm

Unless another candidate appears who believes in our constitution as it was framed by the founding fathers I will only vote for Ron Paul. I don't agree that Ron Paul is "no warrior." It seems to me that he merely believes that our military should be used to defend our country and its interests, not to fight other people's wars. To be quite honest I don't want to fight a war with Iran. We don't stand to gain anything from it. It will only cost us more money and our national debt is already ridiculous. Let Israel deal with Iran.

That being said, even if Cain or Gingrich believed in the constitution as it was originally written, I don't think I could bring myself to vote for either one of them. In my opinion being a known philanderer does disqualify one from being President of the United States.

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29 Nov 2011, 1:39 pm

He does have a bit of a fetish for White women, doesn't he?

Well, good for him.

Still no accusations of homosexuality, so no need to bow out yet.

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29 Nov 2011, 2:31 pm

Ragtime wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Ah, that old cliché once again. It all depends on what you consider "smoke". Accusations alone, I suppose, means someone is guilty.

Well, there's no doubt that Obama is a whole BBQ pit. :lol:

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29 Nov 2011, 3:24 pm

zer0netgain wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Ah, that old cliché once again. It all depends on what you consider "smoke". Accusations alone, I suppose, means someone is guilty.

Well, there's no doubt that Obama is a whole BBQ pit. :lol:

And that's supposed to be a reference to...?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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29 Nov 2011, 3:27 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Ah, that old cliché once again. It all depends on what you consider "smoke". Accusations alone, I suppose, means someone is guilty.

Well, there's no doubt that Obama is a whole BBQ pit. :lol:

And that's supposed to be a reference to...?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Apparently, how mouth-wateringly delicious he is. :lol:

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29 Nov 2011, 3:46 pm

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Considering he has been by far the most conservative democrat president in the last decades, I'd beg to differ.

Technically Vex, that title may be better suited to Clinton, but that's my opinion.

As for the issue with Herman Cain, it's just political mudslinging as per usual. He is not a professional politician, so therefore, he is challenging the status quo, and the professional politicians are trying to take him down for that reason.

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29 Nov 2011, 4:11 pm

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/herman-ca ... d=15042918

In this case, Mr. Cain's paramour of 13 years was twice divorced, which means that he had committed adultery against both of her husbands.

Naughty, naughty, naughty.

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29 Nov 2011, 4:50 pm

Herman Cain's latest campaign song...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHbYLjWEEQA[/youtube]

I might vote for him now.

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29 Nov 2011, 4:52 pm

MarsCoban wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

zer0netgain wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Ah, that old cliché once again. It all depends on what you consider "smoke". Accusations alone, I suppose, means someone is guilty.

Well, there's no doubt that Obama is a whole BBQ pit. :lol:

And that's supposed to be a reference to...?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Apparently, how mouth-wateringly delicious he is. :lol:

Now that deserves a hearty :lol:

!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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29 Nov 2011, 8:21 pm

dmm1010 wrote:

And they certainly don't believe in constitution as it was originally written. I doubt Herman Cain has ever even read it and Newt has been working against the constitution for 30+ years.

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Futurist
In 1994, Gingrich described himself as “a conservative futurist.” He said that those who were trying to define him should look no further than The Third Wave, a 1980 book written by Alvin Toffler. The book describes our society as entering a post-industrial phase in which abortion, homosexuality, promiscuity, and divorce are perfectly normal, even virtuous. Toffler penned a letter to America’s “founding parents,” in which he said: “The system of government you fashioned, including the very principles on which you based it, is increasingly obsolete, and hence increasingly, if inadvertently, oppressive and dangerous to our welfare. It must be radically changed and a new system of government invented — a democracy for the 21st century.” He went on to describe our constitutional system as one that “served us so well for so long, and that now must, in its turn, die and be replaced.”

Gingrich recommended The Third Wave as essential reading to his colleagues when he became Speaker of the House. In his forward to another Toffler book, Creating a New Civilization: The Politics of the Third Wave, he grieved at the lack of appreciation for “Toffler’s insight” in The Third Wave and blamed politicians who had not applied his model for the “frustration, negativism, cynicism and despair” of the political landscape. He went on to explain that Toffler advocated a concept called “anticipatory democracy,” and bragged that he had worked with him for 20 years “to develop a future-conscious politics and popular understanding that would make it easier for America to make the transition” to a Third Wave civilization.

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29 Nov 2011, 8:24 pm

It's funny that half a dozen women accused Bill Clinton of sexual harassment or even assault (remember Juanita Broaddrick?) and nobody listened to them.

So, I don't really care if the allegations against Cain are true. We've learned something here, that the media and establishment have a double standard.

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29 Nov 2011, 8:53 pm

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Clinton was the 2nd ever US president to be impeached and has his name and legacy linked to eternity with Monica Lewinsky. I wouldn't say there is a double standard but that won't stop republicans and democrats from crying foul whenever the next sex scandal hits

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29 Nov 2011, 11:39 pm

I have a more relevant accusation against Herman Cain: that he has a sh***y platform. IMO, every time one of these women comes forward it helps Cain. Anything to prevent the 999 plan from getting serious attention can only help Cain. What the hell happened? A few months back when Cain started gaining popularity people started looking at his plan and he was about to get ripped a new a**hole over it, because it's utterly f*****g ridiculous. Then all these women came along and suddenly everyone forgot about that. Frankly, that these accusations keep coming along and distracting people from his actual platform is the only hope Cain has.

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30 Nov 2011, 12:39 am

He's "rethinking" his candidacy now. I'll miss Hermie, so many laughs.

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