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01 Dec 2011, 5:01 pm

Well, church is banned in this interracial household, so I says we calls it even.

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01 Dec 2011, 5:56 pm

In ancient times it was customary for a slave to marry the slave masters daughter

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01 Dec 2011, 6:59 pm

Telekon wrote:

pandabear wrote:

Come to think of it, most of the South is interracial, although most people who self-identify as "White" won't admit it.

How do you know that?

it is a game of multiply the grandparents.
I have 2 parents they together have 4 them 8
it is about 16 generations to the founding of slavery
that is 65536 ancestors that coulda been black.
and with the rates white slave owners raped their female slaves (Sally Hemings was Jefferson's sister-in-law)
and the frequency that said offspring can "pass for white"
there is really not a chance of a southerner not to have something in the woodpile.

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03 Dec 2011, 5:29 am

JakobVirgil wrote:

Telekon wrote:

pandabear wrote:

Come to think of it, most of the South is interracial, although most people who self-identify as "White" won't admit it.

How do you know that?

You can only laugh when considering how many Klansmen and Neo-Nazis might actually have black African ancestry!

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03 Dec 2011, 10:09 am

We previously had a discussion about White Slavery in the South

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt149078.html

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03 Dec 2011, 10:12 am

I'm on the side of the church.

Religion is sovereign and any faith can decline to perform sacred ordinances for any person or persons they see fit, and can refuse entry to anybody for any no reason.

Don't like it? Find a faith or nonfaith that meets your needs.

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03 Dec 2011, 10:14 am

blauSamstag wrote:

Absolutely right. Churches are stores that sell indulgences of various prices and qualities. They are private institutions and should not be regulated in detail. They also should have their tax free status revoked post haste.

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03 Dec 2011, 10:16 am

I'm amused, since during my Contemporary Latin America class, we had some numbers regarding mixed marriages between latinos and non-latino whites. =/ Does the church consider them "interracial" as well? ^.- (I could go fetch them if you guys want, they're from some American census)

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03 Dec 2011, 10:20 am

ruveyn wrote:

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I agree completely. They should at least be required to adhere to the same laws as other not-for-profit organizations.

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03 Dec 2011, 10:22 am

blauSamstag wrote:

I agree completely. They should at least be required to adhere to the same laws as other not-for-profit organizations.

Right on! Even Steven. Fair dinkum. No privileges for spiritual basket cases.

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03 Dec 2011, 1:05 pm

Cracker morons.

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03 Dec 2011, 2:55 pm

Hope it doesn't hurt the image of Kentucky too much :lol:

But seriously, the church was located in Pike county which is a place really in the sticks and Appalachian. At least that was the excuse my grandma gave as she was raised not too far from there.

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03 Dec 2011, 3:25 pm

Let's take a look, for example, at South Carolina

From the 1790 Census (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1790_United_States_Census)

Free White People: 140,178 (56%)
All Other Free Persons: 1,801 (<1%)
Slaves: 107,094 (43%)

From the 1850 Census (http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/decennial/1850.html)

White Population: 274,563 (41%)
Free Colored Population: 8,960 (1%)
Free Blacks: 4,558 (<1%)
Free Mulattoes: 4,372 (<1%)
Slave Blacks: 372,482 (56%)
Slave Mulattoes: 12,502 (2%)

From the 1860 Census (http://www.civilwarhome.com/population1860.htm)

Free Population: 301,302 (43%)
Slave Population: 402,406 (57%)

From the 1890 Census (http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/decennial/1890.html)

Whites 462,008 (40%)
Negroes 621,781 (54%)
Mulattoes 53,400 (5%)
Quadroons 8,120 (<1%)
Octoroons 5,633 (<1%)
Chinese 34
Civilized Indians 173

From the 2010 Census (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/45000.html)

Population, 4,625,364

White persons, 66.2%
Black persons, 27.9%
American Indian and Alaska Native persons, 0.4%
Asian persons, 1.3%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, 0.1%
Persons reporting two or more races, 1.7%
Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, 16.3%
White persons not Hispanic, 64.1%

So, some time between 1890 to present, South Carolina went from being majority Black to majority White, and the percentage of people who reported as racially mixed also fell.

I'm guessing that a lot of people with at least some African ancestry melted into the "White" population, and that most of the people in the "White" population have at least some African ancestry.

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03 Dec 2011, 3:35 pm

pandabear wrote:

I suspect DNA tests would prove you right.

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03 Dec 2011, 5:11 pm

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Cracker morons.

Agreed.

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04 Dec 2011, 9:05 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:

Telekon wrote:

pandabear wrote:

Come to think of it, most of the South is interracial, although most people who self-identify as "White" won't admit it.

How do you know that?

We don't have data on the rates of white-on-black rape in the antebellum south. If it happened it's unlikely the offspring entered society as whites. Mulattos were considered black by the one drop rule. The products of intermingling between blacks and whites were probably siphoned into the black population. Most blacks have white ancestry and that's probably where they got it from.

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