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The idea of Santorum as a VP pick is cause he can rally the base. He wouldn't be a likely pick though, if Cain can find evidence to show that these attacks on him were a smear campaign from team Obama, then I am pretty sure Cain will be Gingrich's VP pick.



Ordinarily you would be right, however the fact that we had Pelosi come out and threaten Gingrich, whom turned tables on her by pointing out she would be violating ethics rules (which she already is btw for making the threat), actually may turn the ethics charges into a positive.

The way he responded and the way she is now backing down, suggests that the ethics charges were nothing more than a political hatchet job designed for a charecter assassination. It actually throws the corruption charges right back in Pelosi's face (whom quite frankly should be facing ethics charges anyways), and makes it look like the investigators were corrupt.

Furthermore, if anything comes out from that investigation, Nancy Pelosi is now on the hook for it. Gingrich can start slamming Pelosi and say this is a perfect example of how corrupt Pelosi is.



I think your analysis is wrong in this case, the fact that the rank and file are going bananas is actually what the conservative base is liking. We all understand Obama is good at giving speeches, and quite frankly Gingrich is the only one that could easily beat Obama in a debate.

The novelty of watching Gingrich mop the floor with Obama in a debate is something that a lot of Republicans would pay money to see. Furthermore, they see that Newt Gingrich is a fighter which is something that Mittens really is not.

Yes Newt Gingrich will really win the debate with Obama after he tells them he will take away children from their Mothers and put them in orphanages.

Compared to everything you have called me, what I said was relatively minor. Furthermore, I was only agreeing with visagrunt's assessment of your comments and behavior. I pointed out basically that I've never seen visagrunt behave as shallowly as you do. If you're saying I should apologize for telling the truth, it is not gonna happen.

And, he really should get a job mopping floors. That would suit him.

Ever heard of a figure of speech?

Gingrich is a lot better debater than John McCain was, based on the fact Romney is afraid of debating Gingrich, it's obvious Gingrich is the stronger candidate.

Gingrich however is someone that a lot of Washington insiders are terrified of, and I think that's a good thing. The fact we no longer had balanced budgets after he left kinda shows the real reason why everyone wanted him gone, and that is cause he kept them from spending like lunatics and was focused on what is best for this country rather than playing partisan games.

No. What's that?

I plan on getting this shirt:

Another reason why I'm supporting Gingrich is cause the media keeps pushing Mitt Romney, so we know that Obama would really rather run against Romney.

True. The more I read about him the more I like him (his foreign policy cred is very likable, though he is a bit of an unknown on defense spending). Though I was genuinely impressed by Newt in the values forum he did with Herman Cain.

Is rallying the base what's needed here? Perhaps. With a candidate like Romney--who is designed to appeal to independents and centrists, I can see that you need a rock solid running mate to get out the knuckle draggers. But what if the running mate turns off more independents than the candidate can attract? Then you've mobilized the base for nothing.

As for Cain, all I can say is, "there's Danté, building a snowfort." There is zero chance that anything with get proved or disproved in the next nine months. He is now solidly yesterday's news and he will be consigned to the oblivion that is reserved for also-rans. The media will turn their attention to candidates with a pulse, and his accusers will be left to languish.



But this is still taking the fight to Pelosi. And every column inch that gets wasted fighting her is a column inch that is not spent fighting Obama.

Obama has a much larger war chest than the Republican hopefuls, and when one of them emerges from this contest, the candidate is still going to have to fight a quasi-national campaign. (As usual, the myth of national democracy will cover over the fact that the only presidential races that count are the ones in Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and their ilk.) Meanwhile, Obama will be able to outspend the eventual Republican candidate, hands down.

In that scenario, every ad, every column inch and every second of broadcast is precious. When you go off message, you waste those resources.



(shrug) If sanity, reason and mature decision making prevail in this contest I will be pleased. But I don't see such a sea change in American politics happening during the next 11 months.

I would consider voting for Pat Buchanan, if he was a candidate.
I probably wouldn't vote for him in the end, but I would be willing to think about it.

Has anyone else noticed that Gingrich is an extremely easy person to ridicule?

Let's face it, he screams "candy-ass" quite loudly.



He looks high in that picture, and his hair looks unnatural and strange.

His attempt to run on a "moral values" ticket is misguided. Although he is hardly Satan's right-hand man, any truly sincere evangelical Christian will find it hard to be enthusiastic over him. Obama's admission to doing drugs in high school scored him brownie-points with the liberal populists. Gingrich admitting to doing weed in grad school isn't going to fly well with the base he's pandering to. If you're going to support medical marijuana and want to run for President, you had better be a sober-looking Democrat with an enthusiastic liberal base and strong credibility with independents.



Romney may have some annoying chimerical qualities, but he overall comes across as far more "presidential" than Gingrich. He has greater overall credibility than Gingrich.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... UOM9QvhG5I

Of course, Obama's people have virtually been salivating over him.

The way everyone in the establishment is pushing for Romney indicates that they probably have something that can torpedo his chances.

Romney can be painted as a Wall Street Fat cat, Newt however can't and that disrupts the class warfare song and dance.



They said Newt's campaign was dead a few monthes ago, and he's now the front runner.



Yes and no, Gingrich isn't spending any money on campaign ads against Pelosi, he just turned tables on her and moved on. The ethics violations attack no longer works because she miscalculated and now the ethics violations look like nothing more than a typical left wing smear campaign. Furthermore, Pelosi is so disliked by Republicans and Independents, it generates support for Gingrich.



Which is why we need someone that is very good at turning tables on a hostile media and used to taking all kinds of smear attacks. Sorry but Romney lost his cool in an interview with Bret Bauer (sp?) of Fox News. If he can't handle questions from Fox News, I seriously doubt he can handle the general election.



However, Gingrich hasn't been harping on the Pelosi thing, he pretty much destroyed her attack within 24 hours, and in fact Pelosi could be put up on ethic charges right now.



I think you are wrong.

The only person that is really good at articulating the conservative viewpoint effectively is Newt Gingrich. I mean seriously, instead of slogans, he's already thinking of policy what would work, what probably wouldn't.

Newt's advantage here is his experience and the fact everything went to hell in a handbasket after he left office. Unlike Romney, he wasn't running for the Presidency since 2007, he is only in it because he's worried about which way this country is going, and he's worried about his grandkids' futures.

If it comes down to a contest between Newt Gingrich and a trained pig, I'll vote for the trained pig.

You'd also probably be voting for the Socialist in Chief Obama anyways, so I really couldn't care less.

If it came down to Barack Obama and Newt Gingrich, I'd still vote for the trained pig, whether or not it was a candidate.

Which would you choose:


Arnold Ziffle (Green Acres)


Babe (Movie of the same name)


Wilbur (Charlotte's Web)


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