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18 Dec 2011, 6:50 pm

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Sex leads to babies. Seems completely obvious to me.

As an aspie I have to ask myself and the rest of the people on this thread, is it that difficult to curb your own desires and not have sex?

Life doesn't begin at conception, life is always life. And the transference of life is what our biology intends.

I don't know for sure, no one does, but any aborted life could have found the cure for cancer, or in this case the cure for stupidity.

Are Aspies all stupid in our own way? Why not, we're all human and fallible.


viruses are transference of life, does not work as a distimctive trait of humanity, animals or anything.


Noo, Viruses are not alive. Bacteria are however. But I see your point.



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19 Dec 2011, 12:43 pm

it seems to me like a treatise on the general stupidity of those of an anti-sex (good point by ruveyn earlier in the thread) point of view. although perhaps this is something of a sweeping generalisation... but it does seem to sum up the general lack of a grounding in reality that these sorts of people have. i feel a hint of sorrow for them.


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19 Dec 2011, 2:27 pm

cw10 wrote:
Oodain wrote:
cw10 wrote:
Sex leads to babies. Seems completely obvious to me.

As an aspie I have to ask myself and the rest of the people on this thread, is it that difficult to curb your own desires and not have sex?

Life doesn't begin at conception, life is always life. And the transference of life is what our biology intends.

I don't know for sure, no one does, but any aborted life could have found the cure for cancer, or in this case the cure for stupidity.

Are Aspies all stupid in our own way? Why not, we're all human and fallible.


viruses are transference of life, does not work as a distimctive trait of humanity, animals or anything.


Noo, Viruses are not alive. Bacteria are however. But I see your point.


true,


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19 Dec 2011, 2:33 pm

cw10 wrote:
Sex leads to babies. Seems completely obvious to me.

As an aspie I have to ask myself and the rest of the people on this thread, is it that difficult to curb your own desires and not have sex?

Life doesn't begin at conception, life is always life. And the transference of life is what our biology intends


What does this have to do with anything?
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I don't know for sure, no one does, but any aborted life could have found the cure for cancer, or in this case the cure for stupidity.


Or been a fascist dictator. Nothing to do with the issue.


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19 Dec 2011, 8:32 pm

cw10 wrote:
Sex leads to babies. Seems completely obvious to me.

Counter examples: Condoms, contraceptive pills, day-after pills, Vasectomy, being sterily, abortion.

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As an aspie I have to ask myself and the rest of the people on this thread, is it that difficult to curb your own desires and not have sex?

Is it necessary to curb your own desires? Informed contraception will get you rid of side effects with good probability and in the worst case scenario in which that fails, you can get abortion.

Also, you are assuming that all sex is voluntary. Plenty of raped women end up pregnant and thus I find it a blessing that abortion exists as a solution for them.


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Life doesn't begin at conception, life is always life. And the transference of life is what our biology intends.

I don't know for sure, no one does, but any aborted life could have found the cure for cancer, or in this case the cure for stupidity.

It works both ways, this aborted life could have been the next Hitler.


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19 Dec 2011, 8:39 pm

This syllogism actually makes sense...

a. Playing video games inhibits sexual activity.
b. Sexual activity is the leading cause of abortions.
: : Playing video games prevents abortions.



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19 Dec 2011, 8:49 pm

Fnord wrote:
This syllogism actually makes sense...

a. Playing video games inhibits sexual activity.
b. Sexual activity is the leading cause of abortions.
: : Playing video games prevents abortions.

Only in that while one is playing a video game, he or she is probably not having sex. So you could easily replace "playing video games" with any activity that isn't sex.



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19 Dec 2011, 8:54 pm

Fnord wrote:
This syllogism actually makes sense...

a. Playing video games inhibits sexual activity.
b. Sexual activity is the leading cause of abortions.
: : Playing video games prevents abortions.


But they are actually stopping to play video games, so there will be more abortions by that logic.


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19 Dec 2011, 8:58 pm

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But they are actually stopping to play video games, so there will be more abortions by that logic.

I think he was suggesting that by giving up video games these objectors might achieve a result opposite that which they desire.



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19 Dec 2011, 10:25 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
cw10 wrote:
Sex leads to babies. Seems completely obvious to me.

Counter examples: Condoms, contraceptive pills, day-after pills, Vasectomy, being sterily, abortion.

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As an aspie I have to ask myself and the rest of the people on this thread, is it that difficult to curb your own desires and not have sex?

Is it necessary to curb your own desires? Informed contraception will get you rid of side effects with good probability and in the worst case scenario in which that fails, you can get abortion.

Also, you are assuming that all sex is voluntary. Plenty of raped women end up pregnant and thus I find it a blessing that abortion exists as a solution for them.


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Life doesn't begin at conception, life is always life. And the transference of life is what our biology intends.

I don't know for sure, no one does, but any aborted life could have found the cure for cancer, or in this case the cure for stupidity.

It works both ways, this aborted life could have been the next Hitler.


That's all awesome except everyone always jumps on the abortion bandwagon like it's a necessary step to living in urban sprawl. No I will not drink the cool-aid.



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20 Dec 2011, 6:55 am

This topic is completely pointless. Neither side can acknowledge that the other has perfectly rational points. Why does it keep coming up?

... people are fond of controlling what others do. Nobody can seem to accept that morality is subjective.


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20 Dec 2011, 7:11 am

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
This topic is completely pointless. Neither side can acknowledge that the other has perfectly rational points. Why does it keep coming up?

... people are fond of controlling what others do. Nobody can seem to accept that morality is subjective.


yup,
in that that is pretty much the free choice stance,


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20 Dec 2011, 9:16 am

They should take the money they save by not buying ice cream and video games, and use it to open a "pantry" for struggling new moms that provides diapers, clothes, etc.



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20 Dec 2011, 10:15 am

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
This topic is completely pointless. Neither side can acknowledge that the other has perfectly rational points. Why does it keep coming up?
I guess people are just looking for some cheap excuse to sling s**t at each other and feel morally superior (which is part of the reason I'm not as active here as I used to be). One pattern I constantly see is one side projecting their underlying assumptions on the other side to make the other side look hypocritical ("You think a convicted murderer should have the right to live and yet an innocent baby shouldn't!" or "You believe in the death penalty huh? So much for being pro-life!"). The ridiculous thing is that even when the other side proves that their projections are inaccurate, the same old people keep the same old s**t coming as if their projections have never been challenged.



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20 Dec 2011, 10:55 am

dmm1010 wrote:
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But they are actually stopping to play video games, so there will be more abortions by that logic.
I think he was suggesting that by giving up video games these objectors might achieve a result opposite that which they desire.

Bingo!

It also bolsters the idea that playing video games is not a sin, as it prevents other sins from occurring.

Hmph ... no wonder I never did well as a church elder ... :roll:



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20 Dec 2011, 9:37 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
This topic is completely pointless. Neither side can acknowledge that the other has perfectly rational points. Why does it keep coming up?
I guess people are just looking for some cheap excuse to sling sh** at each other and feel morally superior

What's important here is that you two guys managed to find a way to feel superior to both sides.

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That's all awesome except everyone always jumps on the abortion bandwagon like it's a necessary step to living in urban sprawl. No I will not drink the cool-aid.

Yes, the whole "tale" about rape existing is cool-aid.

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This topic is completely pointless. Neither side can acknowledge that the other has perfectly rational points. Why does it keep coming up?

I am sorry, this topic is not about whether abortion should be legal or not as that debate has already been finished by far with severe humiliation and inability by so-called pro-life to show any reasonable argument . This topic is merely to rant about the idiotic website in the original post.


You insult everyone's intelligence when you imply that the pro-life people (or rather misogynistic anti-choice pricks) have "perfectly rational points". They worship the god of irrationality, and that has been demonstrated over and over again.

If you consider morality to be relative, then you would have no problem with the choice of abortion being legal so that every woman on earth can decide for herself. Because that's what the pro-life instance argues against, against the idea of women making their own moral decisions. The pro-life argument is by nature irrational. It is an invitation for governments to put further barriers and mandates in our lives just because their misogynistic brains can't cope with the fact that women may actually be deciding for themselves whether to be pregnant or not.


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