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28 Dec 2011, 5:52 pm

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adam, the best way for you to silence us skeptics on this subject would be to post some conclusive evidence that anyone anywhere has ever successfully used the FREEMAN ON THE LAND argument in court.

Correct. All I've ever seen is various sweaty middle-aged men with questionable sanity that rant at people. It could be in Swahili for all the recipient cares.

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28 Dec 2011, 5:55 pm

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The only real law is might makes right, because the mighty have the power to enforce their definition of right.

The use of force, coersion and violence is not how humanity will survive and hense thrive. Because it doesn't matter how many police officers in riot gear douse us in pepper spray and beat us with batons, as long as we stand up for our right to exist, it makes their thirst for power no more satiated.

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adam, the best way for you to silence us skeptics on this subject would be to post some conclusive evidence that anyone anywhere has ever successfully used the FREEMAN ON THE LAND argument in court.

Is it my job to provide this for you, or is it your job to realise this for yourselves? One thing I have consistently been shown on this forum is that those who like to be armchair critics love to merely sit there and have others do all the donkey work for them all in vain because they will simply sit there and dismiss it all anyway. Truth cannot be told. It can only be realised. And until you start to look into this for yourself, all this will be is me presenting evidence, and you beligerently shooting it down for not being "satisfactory". Coz if you don't want to have your mind changed, then it WON'T be changed.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:01 pm

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You and who else? There can't be more than a couple of thousand malcontents and the state has them under surveillance and general control.

Unless you can rouse mass - i.e. a good segment of the population - demonstrations, I rather think you should go to bed. I know your parents give you a bit of leeway for your bedtime because it's Christmas but still.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:09 pm

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peebo wrote:

adam, the best way for you to silence us skeptics on this subject would be to post some conclusive evidence that anyone anywhere has ever successfully used the FREEMAN ON THE LAND argument in court.

it is your job to provide it for us, as it is quite obviously not something that can be realised, rather something that must be observed. can you provide any example at all of this ever being a successful strategy when charged with an offence under statute law? it would surely be simple to answer this.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:09 pm

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Every human being on the planet. The fact that we have been groomed and conditioned into abject slavery of the body and of the mind and dare I say spirit, just shows a certain fear held by the mathematically challenged "ruling elite".

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I rather think you should go to bed. I know your parents give you a bit of leeway for your bedtime because it's Christmas but still.

What a disgusting appeal-to-mockery fallacy. How old are you? Have you learnt to leave that pseudo-intellectual crap behind you yet? Just so you know I live in a different county than my parents since I moved out years ago.

Also, why are you avoiding my question? So I will ask you yet again:

Which section is "The authority of Her Majesty's Government" under? Is there even such thing as "The authority of Her Majesty's Government Act"? Please point me to where this act exists.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:11 pm

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GoonSquad wrote:

The only real law is might makes right, because the mighty have the power to enforce their definition of right.

The use of force, coersion and violence is not how humanity will survive and hense thrive. Because it doesn't matter how many police officers in riot gear douse us in pepper spray and beat us with batons, as long as we stand up for our right to exist, it makes their thirst for power no more satiated.

Yeah, that's why they jail or kill the ones who don't have the good sense to stay down.

It actually works pretty well.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:17 pm

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Yeah, that's why they jail or kill the ones who don't have the good sense to stay down.

Or we put them in "psychiatric institutions" or gulags. Worked well enough for the Soviet Union.

(Not that I agree in any way with what they did.)

I'm mocking you because your position is worthy of mockery. It's not much good bleating that a man doesn't have the authority to use force upon you when he's stoving your face in with a sledgehammer.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:17 pm

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it is your job to provide it for us, as it is quite obviously not something that can be realised

No, it is not my job to do your own research and your own research for you. Stop being so lazy in your thinking. And this IS something that can be realised. How do you think an average joe like me has come to understand it? Oh yea, coz I can actually be BOTHERED to look at it for myself. Are you really that aberrated that you would expect everyone to do the donkey work for you? How sad. I can EXPLAIN it TO you. However I cannot UNDERSTAND it FOR you. That responsibility lies with you. And if you lack the inclination and/or motivation to absorb it for yourself, then that is on you.

Just like a parent feeding their infant child, I can bring the spoon to your lips. It is your job to open your mouth, take the food, chew it and swallow it.

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, rather something that must be observed.

And what do you think comes out of that observation? Oh yea, that's right, realisation!

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can you provide any example at all of this ever being a successful strategy when charged with an offence under statute law? it would surely be simple to answer this.

I certainly can. Observe:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Zc2_CEw4I[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ0X799Mpgc[/youtube]

Now maybe you should RESEARCH this to see for YOURSELF.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:22 pm

Oh, and I haven't finished yet.

I'm a libertarian agreeing with a communist. That alone should give you an idea of how barmy your position is.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:26 pm

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Yeah, that's why they jail or kill the ones who don't have the good sense to stay down.

Or we put them in "psychiatric institutions" or gulags. Worked well enough for the Soviet Union.

Are you two ACTUALLY serious? Are you happy with the idea of living is such a stratified and inhibitive world? Maybe you have been conditioned into thinking that "this is the way it is" and that is that, however that is YOUR choice to live in such a world. I hope you don't mind that I prefer to actually have the freedom to breathe without the state's say so.

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(Not that I agree in any way with what they did.)

Then why do you implore such fascist behaviour?

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I'm mocking you because your position is worthy of mockery.

Sorry, that's no excuse. I may find a lot of what you guys say fit for mockery, however I don't stoop to the depths of logical fallacy and personal attacks.

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It's not much good bleating that a man doesn't have the authority to use force upon you when he's stoving your face in with a sledgehammer.

Is a sledgehammer official police issue for riot control? I don't think so. You're just being ridiculous now.

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Oh, and I haven't finished yet.

I'm a libertarian agreeing with a communist. That alone should give you an idea of how barmy your position is.

I'm sorry, I had to laugh at that. Shall I be forced to repeat myself to explain why I'm not a communist? Or is my refusal to be classified under that name say it all, since I don't know any communists who don't proudly state so.

And you STILL haven't answered my question so I will ask it yet again:

Which section is "The authority of Her Majesty's Government" under? Is there even such thing as "The authority of Her Majesty's Government Act"? Please point me to where this act exists.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:28 pm

Are any of you ACTUALLY ABLE to dispute the information I have placed into this thread yet? Have any of you even bothered to look into the information? Or are you all gonna engage in logical fallacies to distract away from it?

Tell you what guys, just go back to the first page, and have a watch of the links I placed in. Be patient, don't worry if it is confusing at first, it takes a while to assimilate, I know it did for me. Do your own research and then come back to me about it. I'm sure there will be a lot we can talk about once you have actually bothered to look at the material for yourselves.

Until then, namaste.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:44 pm

Adam-Anti-Um wrote:

Tequila wrote:

GoonSquad wrote:

Yeah, that's why they jail or kill the ones who don't have the good sense to stay down.

Or we put them in "psychiatric institutions" or gulags. Worked well enough for the Soviet Union.

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(Not that I agree in any way with what they did.)

Then why do you implore such fascist behaviour?

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I'm mocking you because your position is worthy of mockery.

Sorry, that's no excuse. I may find a lot of what you guys say fit for mockery, however I don't stoop to the depths of logical fallacy and personal attacks.

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It's not much good bleating that a man doesn't have the authority to use force upon you when he's stoving your face in with a sledgehammer.

Is a sledgehammer official police issue for riot control? I don't think so. You're just being ridiculous now.

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Oh, and I haven't finished yet.

I'm a libertarian agreeing with a communist. That alone should give you an idea of how barmy your position is.

Wow. This is officially the most confusing post I've ever read.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:45 pm

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Wow. This is officially the most confusing post I've ever read.

I know. I think he actually spent some time studying how to be this obtuse.

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28 Dec 2011, 6:50 pm

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I know. I think he actually spent some time studying how to be this obtuse.

I think the words pot, kettle and black come to mind. As evidenced by the NUMEROUS questions and points you have evaded. Obtuse indeed. :lol:

My assertions still hold firm. I await your efforts to actually look into them, then get back to me.

Namaste.

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29 Dec 2011, 3:32 am

Adam-Anti-Um wrote:

i'm not an expert in law, and don't claim to be. i'm not going to watch the videos and indulge your sophistry on this topic, for the reason outlined below:

i have witnessed first hand the dire situations people have got themselves into with this. i have also discussed it at length with someone who gives the notion credence. i have never found, been shown, or been directed to any instance of this working. given the number of people who buy into it, i find this strange. however, it seems based upon the evidence that it doesn't work.

if you can provide an example that demonstrates otherwise, the discussion will be settled.

thanks.

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29 Dec 2011, 5:57 am

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You know you could just admit that you cannot be bothered to look at the information. It is a shame that you have already made up your mind about it. As such you will not allow yourself to be convinced. You ask for demonstrations, and then when I do say that you won't entertain them. That is YOUR ignorance. And I'm sorry to see this level of ignorance.

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