Is it antichristian to battle antihomosexual discrimination?

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The Tanakh and the Bible are not the same thing.....so that is kind of irrelevent to my point.

I'm afraid I've missed your point entirely. The Christian Bible comprises the Old and New Testaments. What Christians call the "Old Testament" is, more or less, the Tanakh. I ask again, to what was Jesus referring when he said "think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill"?

My point was its ridiculous to use quotes from the bible as a reason to discriminate against homosexuals....considering Jesus never mentioned anything about the bible or the Tanakh or that people should be following what either say. I think it goes without saying if Jesus existed discrimination against people was probably not something he was too big on.

Besides the Christian Bible, there is little to no evidence that Jesus existed; and, there is no other record of His supposed teachings.

Even so he had nothing to do with the bible being assembled if he did exist......because if he existed its obvious to me the romans killed him, blamed it on someone else and then assembled the bible and created roman catholocism to control the population because they realised people where not to happy about Jesus being killed and so decided to make it look like they where on the peoples side. Or something like that......either way the bible was assembled by the romans from various texts that existed.

He existed alright - a major religion just doesn't come to life out of nothing.
And while it was the Romans who had killed Jesus, it was Jewish religious leaders collaborating with the Romans who had wanted Jesus out of the way because he attacked their hypocrisy and their taking advantage of the common people, who had handed him over.
It would not be till hundreds of years after Jesus' time that the Roman Emperor Constantine would make Christianity the official religion of the empire. As nearly half of the Roman world's population was Christian by that time, Constantine realized they would be an invaluable political ally, so he ended the years of them being outlaws, and put them on top. Conveniently, he had himself a religious vision, and claimed to have converted. Because, believe it or not, there was more doctrinal disunity among Christians today than there was then, Constantine ordered that the Christians put their house in order and devise a single doctrine. While plenty of Christians were left out in the cold, those who represented what would become modern day Trinitarian theology won out, and became the official Christianity of the Roman Empire.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Yes so basically Roman Catholocism came into existance for control........everything Jesus might have stood for was simply exploited.

So, a question for WP' self-acclaimed Christians: Do you consider attempts to reduce discrimination against homosexual people to be anti-Christian attacks?

I'm afraid I've missed your point entirely. The Christian Bible comprises the Old and New Testaments. What Christians call the "Old Testament" is, more or less, the Tanakh. I ask again, to what was Jesus referring when he said "think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill"?

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The 9th Circuit ruled that the Mount Soledad War Memorial in San Diego was unconstitutional because of a complaint filed by the ACLU. The ruling asserts the forty-three foot cross built in the fifties constituted a government establishment of religion.

NBC television network took the words “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance in its lead-up to the U.S. Open at Congressional Country Club. This happened not once, but twice.

A Christian Florida teacher was suspended after school administrators discovered his support of traditional marriage that was posted on his personal Facebook page.

In Kalispell Montana, during a prayer vigil held on a sidewalk outside of an abortion clinic, pro-lifers were abruptly scattered after a fire-bomb was thrown into the crowd. The homemade explosive landed near an elderly woman, but thankfully she was unhurt. After doing no investigation, a police officer remarked that pro-lifers should expect this sort of reaction to their activities.

California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law a bill that forces public school curriculum and textbooks to “celebrate” homosexual, transgender and bisexual lifestyles. Because California is the largest consumer of textbooks, the content of California textbooks will likely end up in the textbooks of other states.

Old Navy began sponsoring the pro-homosexual “It Get’s Better” campaign by giving proceeds from certain clothing to the campaign. The television and online campaign shows a variety of people living as homosexuals encouraging other’s to come out claiming “It Get’s Better,” and that there hopeful future for those who live as homosexuals.

Christian attorney, John Stemburger, faced a frivolous lawsuit for $10 million dollars. Stemburger represented Rifqa Bary, the young girl who ran away from her Muslim family because she feared for her life. Her parent's attorney accused Stemburger of damaging the attorney’s reputation.

Alabama Governor, Robert Buckley, spoke on Martin Luther King Day at the historic Dexter Ave Baptist Church in Montgomery, the church Dr. King pastored. In his remarks the Governor said, "Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother." The Jewish Anti-Defamation League falsely labeled this anti-Semitic.

Two Houston street preachers were cited and taken to court. After preaching against the sin of homosexuality, the Houston police, in an effort to shut them up, said that their signs were the wrong size.

A Bible study was shut down, after eighteen years, by the city of San Juan Capistrano. It claimed that the group needed a permit because it posed a risk to public safety and health. The City Council eventually reimbursed the fines and re-examined its ordinance.

President Obama declared June “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.” The President called for everyone to “eliminate prejudice” and “celebrate the great diversity of the American people.” The President also hosted in the White House a celebration of the homosexual community in June.

ABC television network's new program, “Good Christian Belles,” portrays Christian women as hypocrites who maliciously attack an old classmate returning to the town. The show as originally entitled “Good Christian B*****” but was changed after Christians expressed their outrage.

A homosexual campaign launched formal investigations by online companies into Christian organizations. The online money-transfer company, PayPal, bowed to the pressure of the anti-Christian group, and sent notices of investigations to Christian groups, freezing their accounts.

A Christian man in Minnesota was fired from his job because a one of his female co-workers attended a morning Bible Study that his wife led at their home. The husband wasn’t even aware that the woman attended the meeting.

A Christian school in Arlington Heights, Illinois had its windows smashed with bricks by militant homosexual activists. The bricks had anti-Christian messages on them, threatening the church with more violence if they allowed a pro-family activist to speak.

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A National Public Radio (NPR) official was caught on video making vicious anti-Christian remarks to persons who identified themselves as members of the Muslim Brotherhood who were promising millions of dollars to NPR. In the video, the NPR official called Evangelical Christians uneducated racists who hate and fear all foreigners.

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"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled" (Matthew 5:17-18).

I think Christians are making excuses again.

I suggest you look at the 'Ruby Tuesday Law'

http://helives.blogspot.com/2010/05/int ... o-fun.html

The laws of the OT certainly continue, but we do not live under the a covenant of law. Rather, we live under a covenant of grace. The laws matter but they must be interpreted in line with the values through the life of Jesus. The idea that all believers that don't call for stonings are cafeteria Chrsitians is silly. Jesus met many blasphemes and idolaters, he never called for one of them to stoned.

Well to be fair, the Old Testament also bans eating shellfish.