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19 Jan 2012, 9:09 pm

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I don't get why they need to shut filesharing sites down, if not all the files people put up there is commercially available stuff. Can't the sites just filter which content gets uploaded?


Yeah, it makes it looks like they're (law enforcement) trying to be as brutal as possible to try to scare others into being super-cautious. They could've told the site owners to remove content like you can with YouTube, but instead the feds just nuked the entire site. And SOPA/PIPA is the same way -- the only remedy it specifies (that I've heard) is removing the entire site.



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19 Jan 2012, 9:26 pm

MegaUpload has returned.


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19 Jan 2012, 11:24 pm

Not for me.

I am gonna guess it is something about a backup server using the domain name and some DNS servers haven't been updated yet.


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19 Jan 2012, 11:34 pm

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Not for me.

I am gonna guess it is something about a backup server using the domain name and some DNS servers haven't been updated yet.


...maybe. It worked for me earlier but doesn't appear to now.


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20 Jan 2012, 1:22 am

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Looks like SOPA and PIPA are already being enforced without being passed.


thats exactly what i said when i found out!

they made it real personal with this cuz i love MegaUpload all the 100+ movies on my PS3 are from MegaUpload, or at least 97% of them the rest are from PS3Divx.net


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20 Jan 2012, 4:51 am

Bit more, I like the cloak and daggers 'retreating to the safe room' aspect :lol:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digit ... enied-bail



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20 Jan 2012, 10:57 am

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No way, I bet the feds are just making an example out of megaupload to tell us what's to come once SOPA gets signed

My read is the other way around; Obama is worried about Hollywood cutting off it's support now that SOPA and PIPA are going down in flames while he sits on the fence, so he's trying to signal to them that he is serious about intellectual property rights by playing up this bust.
Yeah actually that makes more sense.



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20 Jan 2012, 11:57 am

Politicians baffle me. Today Nicolas Sarkozy expressed his support of the FBI for closing the site. Considering he is struggling in the French presidential elections why on earth did he open his mouth voicing support for an action that is generally considered unpopular and likely to cost him more votes from amongst the hundreds of thousands of French people who used the site?


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20 Jan 2012, 6:10 pm

Why? Because Sarkozy is an elected monarch. He could do the very same thing if he wanted. =/ He can dissolve Parliament if it tickles his fancy. He only has to deal with them 6 months per year too.



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20 Jan 2012, 6:25 pm

http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/20/technol ... mous_hack/

"Hacker group Anonymous is a nuisance, not a threat" says the writer of the headline.

My response: closing down a damn file sharing site is a nuisance, not a threat. The fact that Anonymous has never actually done anything truly destructive is that they have never HAD a legitimate cause to do so. Some think they have, but nah, most of their causes so far have been pretty two-bit. In spite of its flaws, we still live in a mostly free country, unlike Egypt under Mubarak. If those government stooges think their little organizations would be invulnerable to pissed-off activists if we had a Mubarak running things, they are deluding themselves and are full of crap.

Anonymous is somewhat ineffectual largely because there is little need for them, and THANK GOD FOR THAT. To keep it that way, we have to make sure that idiotic bills like SOPA and PIPA never pass into law, period.

As for how much I care about an idiotic file-sharing site being raided and shut down by the FBI, I don't. They hanged themselves. Hell, the people who were running the gig are still set for life, even if they do time in prison. If they've horded the proceeds of their crime in a bunch of offshore bank accounts, they'll still be rich once they're released. If the authorities think that this stunt will be a deterrent, they are simply freaking stupid.

The only thing that could ever eliminate file-sharing would be for it to become social malapropos, and that is the ONLY way it would ever dwindle. When we have decided, as a culture, that file-swapping is cheesy, cheap, VULGAR and ignorant, hardly anyone would want to do it anymore. The only thing that motivates people to do file-swapping right now is that it's the anti-establishment thing to do, BECAUSE THE FOOL ESTABLISHMENT HAS MADE A CAUSE OUT OF IT. They're doing it to themselves.



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20 Jan 2012, 9:04 pm

TheKing wrote:
PM wrote:
Looks like SOPA and PIPA are already being enforced without being passed.


thats exactly what i said when i found out!

they made it real personal with this cuz i love MegaUpload all the 100+ movies on my PS3 are from MegaUpload, or at least 97% of them the rest are from PS3Divx.net


Another thought, I think they are trying to make an example out of MegaUpload in order to play hardball with the tech companies that blacked out the day before the shutdown.


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21 Jan 2012, 12:00 am

WilliamWDelaney wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/20/technology/anonymous_hack/

"Hacker group Anonymous is a nuisance, not a threat" says the writer of the headline.
CNN has been horribly sided with SOPA and the such. Worth mentioning that their mommy, Time Warner is one of the dirty proponents of the law.

Anyway, anyone calling anonymous "just a nuisance", should ask HBGary and Sony how "harmless" anonymous were on them...


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21 Jan 2012, 10:10 am

the attack on megaupload released a violent reaction from the internet comunity with more than 5000 unique hackers attacking the DOJ,FBI,MPAA and RIAA, some are still down.

this in turn resulted in what is now known as the #J18 effect

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23 Jan 2012, 1:00 pm

PM wrote:
TheKing wrote:
PM wrote:
Looks like SOPA and PIPA are already being enforced without being passed.


thats exactly what i said when i found out!

they made it real personal with this cuz i love MegaUpload all the 100+ movies on my PS3 are from MegaUpload, or at least 97% of them the rest are from PS3Divx.net


Another thought, I think they are trying to make an example out of MegaUpload in order to play hardball with the tech companies that blacked out the day before the shutdown.


a lot of material, stuff that isnt even pirated, has been removed from MediaFire which leads me to believe they are next to be shut down because thats how it was with MegaUpload, they removed a lot ofstuff then the FBI took over, but like i was looking for modding tools, stuff thats not even illegal, and they were removed course MOST of them were posted on MegauUpload not as much on other sites


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23 Jan 2012, 1:03 pm

I've said this in other threads on the topic and I'll say it again: If Megaupload can make so much money giving stuff away free, there is no reason why the entertainment industry cannot do the same thing.

The motive behind this was two-fold: in the short term, get at the internet for defeating SOPA and, in the long term, to keep maintaining their outdated business model.



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23 Jan 2012, 2:04 pm

Dox47 wrote:
My read is the other way around; Obama is worried about Hollywood cutting off it's support now that SOPA and PIPA are going down in flames while he sits on the fence, so he's trying to signal to them that he is serious about intellectual property rights by playing up this bust.


QFT.

However, the industries still need to sit down and find a way to do an end run around file-sharing.

I am not going to shed any tears for the person who has downloaded thousands of dollars of free material that they ought properly to have purchased through legitimate sources. A portion of every dollar that I have spent paying for material goes to subsidize the freeloaders who want it all, but are unwilling or unable to pay for it.

But I am not so foolish as to believe that you can put that genie back in the bottle. The 2001 shutdown of Napster didn't succeed, and neither will the industries' current initiatives.


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