Why do Neo-Marxists hate the "New Atheists"?

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Sounds like most of PPR in a nutshell to me...

I said secular religion - a fanatical belief system that is mostly faith-based, yet does not require belief in anything supernatural. Similar "religions" include Hitler's Naziism, the Tea Party, the Occupy movement, and major-league sports.

Sorta like the Anti-NT sentiment that seems to pervade WP.

You could also consider Communism a religion in the sense that the people (are supposed to) hold Marxist doctrine as sacred, and believe that they are already living in (a worker's) Paradise.

I mean, religion is the political expression of faith, after all; so why not also accept the fact that when a political system crosses the line from a simple philosophy to a way of life, it becomes a religious system as well?

Hi Dox47,

Have you tried: "SOTU: Dumbed down and recycled" for the "again rated at an 8th grade comprehension level on the Flesch-Kincaid readability test" to see if that helps???:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt187940.html

Tadzio

I said secular religion - a fanatical belief system that is mostly faith-based, yet does not require belief in anything supernatural. Similar "religions" include Hitler's Naziism, the Tea Party, the Occupy movement, and major-league sports.

I liked the book (despite disagreeing with it fundamentally) when it first came out. However, as I've matured, I've realized that Hedges offers nothing but flowery, unverifiable, literary critic nonsense and tangential ramblings.

Sounds like most of PPR in a nutshell to me...

There's this great movie line, I don't know if it's original to the film it appears in, but it seems appropriate here.

"The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."

If we substitute "says 'WTF?'" for "calls you a horse", I'd say you've been called a horse at least a good dozen times in the last few months or so. Time to go saddle shopping?

Hi Dox47,

Which level of Dante's Inferno do you think your ride with The Divine Comedy will take you with your level of intelligence and morality???

Tadzio

Sounds like most of PPR in a nutshell to me...

Hi Dox47,

Which level of Dante's Inferno do you think your ride with The Divine Comedy will take you with your level of intelligence and morality???

Tadzio

Replace "flowery" and "ramblings" with "acerbic" and "rantings".

So far, it's taken me to whichever level it is that houses condescending people who overestimate their own intelligence; it's a promotion from the fanatics wing. My job here is to occasionally deflate them a little, poke the ole ego with a sharp stick. It's ultimately for their own good, they don't get to leave the superiority complex level until their egos have deflated enough to pass through the grating. The pay isn't great but the work can be rewarding.

When I'm not contracting for Infernocorp® or posting outside the Inferno (PPR), I'm just a humble gunsmith and handyman with a few minor talents and enough odd jobs to make for a nice lifestyle. I get to smoke cigars, shoot guns, work with metal, enjoy the company of my wife and even do some pretty damn good cooking too. I even have the time to found and run an Aspie support group with over 300 members; I'd say my intellect and morals are serving me just fine.

I wish I could find an Aspie support group here in the Spokane area. The only one I know of is fictional, in the movie, Mozart And The Whale.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

There's this great movie line, I don't know if it's original to the film it appears in, but it seems appropriate here.

"The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle."

If we substitute "says 'WTF?'" for "calls you a horse", I'd say you've been called a horse at least a good dozen times in the last few months or so. Time to go saddle shopping?

So far, it's taken me to whichever level it is that houses condescending people who overestimate their own intelligence; it's a promotion from the fanatics wing. My job here is to occasionally deflate them a little, poke the ole ego with a sharp stick. It's ultimately for their own good, they don't get to leave the superiority complex level until their egos have deflated enough to pass through the grating. The pay isn't great but the work can be rewarding.

When I'm not contracting for Infernocorp® or posting outside the Inferno (PPR), I'm just a humble gunsmith and handyman with a few minor talents and enough odd jobs to make for a nice lifestyle. I get to smoke cigars, shoot guns, work with metal, enjoy the company of my wife and even do some pretty damn good cooking too. I even have the time to found and run an Aspie support group with over 300 members; I'd say my intellect and morals are serving me just fine.

I occasionally try and come up with new meaning for PPR, some of my favorites:

Paranoid Political Ranting

Polite Philosophical Rambling

People Preaching Religion

Pundits Predicting Rancor

I'm sure most regulars have their own versions...

Whoa, hold up there. Not to pick at a sore point or anything, but since when do thread OPs get to decide who can and cannot participate in threads they start? That only *sorta* flies in the Women's forum, but certainly not in here; disparate opinions are the raison d'être of PPR, even if they make you mad.

Not sure what you're talking about there, I'm not a mod and carry no authority over Inuyasha or anyone else beyond pointing things out.

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Are you quite sure you speak English? (pardon me if you're truly ESL, but that's not the first post of yours to make my brain hurt)

I use the same standard for atheists and theists alike when determining militancy. IMHO the line is interjection, if people are minding their own business and talking about their faith or lack thereof and you can't help but butt in to dispute same, you might be edging into militant territory.

Hi Dox47,

A "concise post" requires many otherwise non-expressed ideas that have to be assumed as already accepted by all individuals. This requirement would frustrate any open discussion of "Politics, Philosophy, and Religion", and also would preclude complex subjects often assumed as "simple". (I just previewed a philosophy book that took 800 pages to "explain" the speed of light as an absolute limit, but while acknowledging that a point of light from a Laser Pointer can easily transverse the surface of the Moon at a speed faster than that of light).

Also, "dumbing" down to "Plain English" is a controversial political issue:
http://www.sourcetext.com/grammarian/le ... say/12.htm

A "Standards of Conciseness" would also discriminate against individuals similar to myself, and would be in violation of the ADA.

Tadzio

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No one's proposing any sort of brevity rule, we're just discussing techniques for dealing with a certain type of forum blowhard. Nobody is going to restrict your rambling, even though as a private website I don't believe the ADA has any power here.

That does ring a vague bell now that you mention it, but it brings me to some seemingly unavoidable unpleasantness. To be honest with you Tadzio, I tend to either skim or skip your posts when I see them, I find your posting style to be roundabout and difficult to follow, and there often seems to be an underlying contempt or derisiveness that I find distasteful. I could be wrong about that last part, it could simply be an artifact of whatever translation your posts are going through, I'm just relaying how it comes across to me.

I for one have made it very clear that I post here for my own enjoyment, and I simply refuse to jump through hoops that other members might throw up for me. Want to demand I "disprove" something or I "lose" the thread? I'll pass. Claim that if I can't understand you it's because of a problem on my end? Not interested in that either. Needless to say, I'm not inclined towards cryptic, vaguely insulting posts, it's just not my bag.

Now as this is an AS board, I'm not judging you for this or anything, I'm sure you've got a perfectly valid reason for how you communicate, but as I'm not under any sort of obligation here I choose to post around you for the most part. Nothing personal, I've just got better things to do (usually ) than try to figure out what you meant by something, usually a long and meticulously sourced something, and craft an appropriate response.

Take that however you want, I just don't like it when people dismiss my long and meticulous posts with a flip comment, so I figured I owed you the explanation, if nothing else.

Given that language is a medium of communication first and foremost, I have to wonder about the motivation of someone who makes theirs so deliberately ostentatious that it becomes difficult to understand. Clearly communication is not the priority in that case, so what could it be?

Hi Dox47,

People go to AS meetups to learn how to avoid people with "negative" AS instead of "positive" AS?

Both are distinguishing criteria used to characterize AS in social interactions, and are under the "disorder", which to the general population, are both a "negative" for social interactions.

Next, the DSM-VI will have to consider purely Psychogenic Autism Spectrum Disorders again, but then under Conversion Disorders for manipulated social interactions with motive ("self-fulfilling prophecy" necessitates the "psychogenic", and a different approach to professional recommendations).

Tadzio

That's been such an issue with us; there are so many people out there that are looking for groups where there's just nothing locally available. My group is slowly expanding into the surrounding area, but it might be a while before we get as far as Spokane I'm afraid. We've got an Olympia chapter, a South Sound chapter that meets in down around Burien, our main Seattle group, and a women's group that meets in Seattle. It's really tough finding group leaders and suitable spaces, especially when we're operating completely on a volunteer basis and don't charge anything for any of the meetings. Little by little though we are expanding an adding new events, the local Aspie population is literally starved for social contact and seems to have a limitless appetite for more meetings.

On the good news front, we just acquired a bunch of domain names to expand the site off of meetup and get a better mechanism in place for creating expansion chapters; I basically want to franchise our operation so that anyone can set up a group under our umbrella and have access to our experience in running AS groups free of charge. We're also toying with setting up as a 501.c3 charitable organization and applying for grants to ease the trouble in finding locations and perhaps subsidizing some meeting until they get established. As it is, our Seattle host is incredibly generous in providing space, food and drink at his own expense, the organization would have collapsed long ago without his support.

So far, it's taken me to whichever level it is that houses condescending people who overestimate their own intelligence; it's a promotion from the fanatics wing. My job here is to occasionally deflate them a little, poke the ole ego with a sharp stick. It's ultimately for their own good, they don't get to leave the superiority complex level until their egos have deflated enough to pass through the grating. The pay isn't great but the work can be rewarding.