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30 Jan 2012, 12:39 am

Where is Dolchavia? I Googled it and all the results came back to you.


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30 Jan 2012, 12:41 am

In Biblical Israel ,pi=3 might be normal,but incorrect.

Not only in Biblical Israel pi was seen as 3,in other ancient societies,pi was also seen as 3.

It has nothing to do with faith.
Just like we could not see antibiotics in the Bible .



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30 Jan 2012, 12:42 am

Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
In Biblical Israel ,pi=3 might be normal,but incorrect.

Not only in Biblical Israel pi was seen as 3,in other ancient societies,pi was also seen as 3.

It has nothing to do with faith.
Just like we could not see antibiotics in the Bible .


Indeed, Jesus said demons caused illness.

That is an example of lying in the bible.


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30 Jan 2012, 12:44 am

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well in countries that are theocracies, civil rights are notoriously nonexistent, women generally have little to no rights, you can be legally murdered for not being the same religion, zealotry runs rampant perverting every sector of society, progress is punishable by death because its heretical....unless its purpose is destruction, countries that are theocracies are 99.9% of the time third world countries constantly in one devastating war or another causing countless deaths and much property damage.

yes OP, OBVIOUSLY religion is the right way to go, society will thrive greatly in that kind of oh so family friendly environment


you can write volumes on the subject of why religion and government should NEVER control one another as you suggest they should


Prove it.
Not all religions are the same.
There is no coerce in Christianity,although it exists in Roman Catholicism.



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30 Jan 2012, 12:46 am

abacacus wrote:
Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
In Biblical Israel ,pi=3 might be normal,but incorrect.

Not only in Biblical Israel pi was seen as 3,in other ancient societies,pi was also seen as 3.

It has nothing to do with faith.
Just like we could not see antibiotics in the Bible .


Indeed, Jesus said demons caused illness.

That is an example of lying in the bible.


Demons could cause illness,but I don't think that demons exist now,otherwise we will see many news about them.
It doesn't mean that all illness are caused by demons.
Most are not.



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30 Jan 2012, 12:48 am

Nearly in EVERY forum,no matter in Dolchavia or not,
I always end up in argueing with everybody else...
That's funny,I know that I am extremely eccentric. :?



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30 Jan 2012, 12:50 am

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Where is Dolchavia? I Googled it and all the results came back to you.

Where is Rodentia?
I do not know where it is just like you don't know where is Dolchavia.



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30 Jan 2012, 12:51 am

Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
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Where is Dolchavia? I Googled it and all the results came back to you.

Where is Rodentia?
I do not know where it is just like you don't know where is Dolchavia.


Rodentia is an order of mammals. The rodents, specifically.


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30 Jan 2012, 12:52 am

OK
Rodentia is an order of mammals.
lol
Dolchavia is a country.



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30 Jan 2012, 12:54 am

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The New Testament has abrogated those commands in the Old Testament.
Please find a single verse in New Testament that encourage killing.


Jesus says, ?Don?t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth!  No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. Families will be torn apart because of Jesus.  ?Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death."Matthew 10:21

Luke 19:27King James Version (KJV) 27But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Luke 19:27 is Jesus saying to kill anyone who does want him as their king


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30 Jan 2012, 12:54 am

My mother tongue is not English,otherwise I would know what Rodentia is.
I know it in my first language.
When I wiki it,I got it.
I thought that Rodentia is a substitute just like Dolchavia.



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30 Jan 2012, 12:55 am

Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
OK
Rodentia is an order of mammals.
lol
Dolchavia is a country.


Where is it? I also googled it, and the only result is this forum.


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30 Jan 2012, 12:59 am

TheKing wrote:
Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
The New Testament has abrogated those commands in the Old Testament.
Please find a single verse in New Testament that encourage killing.


Jesus says, ?Don?t imagine that I came to bring peace on earth!  No, rather a sword lf you love your father, mother, sister, brother, more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. Families will be torn apart because of Jesus.  ?Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death."Matthew 10:21

Luke 19:27King James Version (KJV) 27But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Luke 19:27 is Jesus saying to kill anyone who does want him as their king


Matthew 10:21
Who kills who?
What Jesus mean is that the Christians will be killed by the pagans,not vice versa.

Luke 19:27 is quoting out of content.

11 While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once.

12 He said: “A man of noble birth went to a distant country to have himself appointed king and then to return.

13 So he called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas.[a] ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’

14 “But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We don’t want this man to be our king.’

15 “He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

16 “The first one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned ten more.’

17 “‘Well done, my good servant!’ his master replied. ‘Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.’

18 “The second came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned five more.’

19 “His master answered, ‘You take charge of five cities.’

20 “Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth.

21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’

22 “His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, you wicked servant! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow?

23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’

24 “Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’

25 “‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’

26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away.

27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”

Jesus Comes to Jerusalem as King

28 After Jesus had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.

29 As he approached Bethphage and Bethany at the hill called the Mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples, saying to them,

30 “Go to the village ahead of you, and as you enter it, you will find a colt tied there, which no one has ever ridden. Untie it and bring it here.

31 If anyone asks you, ‘Why are you untying it?’ say, ‘The Lord needs it.’”

Be aware of '",it is in the parable.

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30 Jan 2012, 1:01 am

abacacus wrote:
Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
The New Testament has abrogated those commands in the Old Testament.
Please find a single verse in New Testament that encourage killing.
I know what you are talking about.
You are talking about Canaanites and Agagites,right?
God commanded the Israelites to kill the Canaaites,not the non-believers,right?
It is in the Old Testament,and it is a specific case,it could not be generalised.
It has nothing to do with us Gentile Christians.


The New Testament did no such thing.

According to JESUS HIMSELF:

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Matthew 5:17


Yes,Jesus came to fulfill them and commanded more.
Did Jesus kill?



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30 Jan 2012, 1:03 am

Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
abacacus wrote:
Czeslaw_Kowalski wrote:
The New Testament has abrogated those commands in the Old Testament.
Please find a single verse in New Testament that encourage killing.
I know what you are talking about.
You are talking about Canaanites and Agagites,right?
God commanded the Israelites to kill the Canaaites,not the non-believers,right?
It is in the Old Testament,and it is a specific case,it could not be generalised.
It has nothing to do with us Gentile Christians.


The New Testament did no such thing.

According to JESUS HIMSELF:

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Matthew 5:17


Yes,Jesus came to fulfill them and commanded more.
Did Jesus kill?


Nope. He just told other people to do his dirty work.

You are either trolling, or ignorant as I first suspected.


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30 Jan 2012, 1:04 am

Did Jesus 's apostle kill?

Did early church kill?