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04 Feb 2012, 9:44 pm

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Funnily enough, guess where the original Big Bang Theory came from? The church. :lol:

Go on and keep believing in your little fallacy, but don't be disappointed when you die and realize there is nothing but nothing on the other end.

I don't believe in an afterlife. Not all theists are so certain in the idea of life after death.
To suggest that all theist believe in an afterlife is very prejudice.

I don't believe that all atheist have no morals and I would ask the same tolerance from you.


May I ask what religion you subscribe to?


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04 Feb 2012, 10:00 pm

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Funnily enough, guess where the original Big Bang Theory came from? The church. :lol:

Go on and keep believing in your little fallacy, but don't be disappointed when you die and realize there is nothing but nothing on the other end.

I don't believe in an afterlife. Not all theists are so certain in the idea of life after death.
To suggest that all theist believe in an afterlife is very prejudice.

I don't believe that all atheist have no morals and I would ask the same tolerance from you.


May I ask what religion you subscribe to?

I don't belong to any organized religion. I consider myself to be a panenteist and deist.


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04 Feb 2012, 10:01 pm

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Funnily enough, guess where the original Big Bang Theory came from? The church. :lol:

Go on and keep believing in your little fallacy, but don't be disappointed when you die and realize there is nothing but nothing on the other end.

I don't believe in an afterlife. Not all theists are so certain in the idea of life after death.
To suggest that all theist believe in an afterlife is very prejudice.

I don't believe that all atheist have no morals and I would ask the same tolerance from you.


May I ask what religion you subscribe to?

I don't belong to any organized religion. I consider myself to be a panenteist and deist.


Fair enough. I assumed you were a variety of Christian.


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04 Feb 2012, 10:05 pm

Their parents taught them. Or they feel guilt/fear obligated into it through some variation of Pascal's Wager. So that there are simple, predetermined explanations to everything and one can go about their life without having this illusion shatter.

I think anyone who actually thinks religion is needed for personal morality is possibly a profoundly immoral person. Why? Because they give a clear indication that without fear of punishment in the afterlife for eternity they would engage in brutality


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04 Feb 2012, 10:16 pm

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I don't belong to any organized religion. I consider myself to be a panenteist and deist.


Isn't that spirituality rather than religion? When I hear "religion", I think of organized worship that involves rituals, ceremonies, a clergy, temples or churches, and a written credo or dogma.

In other words, religion is organized spirituality. If you don't belong to a church organization, you are a spiritual person instead of a religious follower. I don't have any qualms with people's personal spiritual beliefs, only with the harmful dogmas of organized, socially conservative religions.



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04 Feb 2012, 10:30 pm

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Why do some people have religious beliefs?

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Because with religion, there are absolutes that never change or get corrected. Thus, people like religion because it is always the same - everlasting and unchanging. This gives them comfort.

With science, even the 'absolutes' are under constant review and revision. Thus, people who like religion are uncomfortable with a system that is never quite 'right', and that occasionally undergoes a complete paradigm shift.

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04 Feb 2012, 11:05 pm

I can prove that there is no such thing as an athiest. Let me take you into combat with me sometime. I'll guarentee that all of you will be praying to God the first mortar barrage that you experience!



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04 Feb 2012, 11:13 pm

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I can prove that there is no such thing as an athiest. Let me take you into combat with me sometime. I'll guarentee that all of you will be praying to God the first mortar barrage that you experience!


That's an interesting thing to say. You're saying that belief in God is caused by fear, and is not caused by looking at evidence or logical argument.

You might be right that there is no such thing as an atheist, but you are not making a case for God's existence at all.



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04 Feb 2012, 11:14 pm

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I can prove that there is no such thing as an athiest. Let me take you into combat with me sometime. I'll guarentee that all of you will be praying to God the first mortar barrage that you experience!

My first time in combat involved no such thing, even though I saw a guy's head explode ten feet in front of me.

You guaranty is invalid.



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04 Feb 2012, 11:24 pm

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I can prove that there is no such thing as an athiest. Let me take you into combat with me sometime. I'll guarentee that all of you will be praying to God the first mortar barrage that you experience!


That's an interesting thing to say. You're saying that belief in God is caused by fear, and is not caused by looking at evidence or logical argument.

You might be right that there is no such thing as an atheist, but you are not making a case for God's existence at all.


Oh, is that all you want? Easy. As I recall God parted the Red Sea for Moses. There are actual photos of piles of wrecked chariots and chariot wheels on the bottom of the Red Sea. It's been documented by archeologists whose only goal is to discover the past. I'd find it entertaining to see any other explanations. As far as fear goes, are you saying you wouldn't be reacting that way in combat? Lastly, I was born and raised an atheist. I didn't become a Christian out of fear. I became a Christian because I found atheism to be illogical.



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04 Feb 2012, 11:26 pm

I've had guns in my face a few times, I'm still an atheist.

No mortar attack, but hey.

Fear might have converted you, but it will never convert me.


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04 Feb 2012, 11:37 pm

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There are actual photos of piles of wrecked chariots and chariot wheels on the bottom of the Red Sea.


I'll give you for free that Moses parted the Red Sea. That only means that Judaism might be true. Why is Christianity true?

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are you saying you wouldn't be reacting that way in combat?


I have no idea, I've never been in combat. However, it might be worth noting that many people become atheists after going through horrible things. It's common among Holocaust survivors, for instance.

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I became a Christian because I found atheism to be illogical.


I'll give you for free that atheism is false. Why is Christianity true?



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04 Feb 2012, 11:42 pm

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Oh, is that all you want? Easy. As I recall God parted the Red Sea for Moses. There are actual photos of piles of wrecked chariots and chariot wheels on the bottom of the Red Sea. It's been documented by archeologists whose only goal is to discover the past. I'd find it entertaining to see any other explanations.


Source?


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04 Feb 2012, 11:46 pm

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Oh, is that all you want? Easy. As I recall God parted the Red Sea for Moses. There are actual photos of piles of wrecked chariots and chariot wheels on the bottom of the Red Sea. It's been documented by archeologists whose only goal is to discover the past. I'd find it entertaining to see any other explanations.


Source?


The very internet that's on your avatar. Check out You-Tube.



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04 Feb 2012, 11:58 pm

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Oh, is that all you want? Easy. As I recall God parted the Red Sea for Moses. There are actual photos of piles of wrecked chariots and chariot wheels on the bottom of the Red Sea. It's been documented by archeologists whose only goal is to discover the past. I'd find it entertaining to see any other explanations.


Source?


The very internet that's on your avatar. Check out You-Tube.


Youtube is not an academic source


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04 Feb 2012, 11:59 pm

Tally, you may get a kick out of the article Verdandi posted here:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4356032.html#4356032

I thought it was interesting


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