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Conservatives, what is your main grievance with the Obama presidency?
President Barack Obama lacks legitimacy for the office of President. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
President Obama is incompetent or lacks executive experience. 11%  11%  [ 4 ]
Obama puts too much faith in government and does not understand decentralized, market-driven dynamics. 17%  17%  [ 6 ]
Obama hates the wealthy, business, and capitalism. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
He's bad for my self-interest. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
His administration is corrupt. 17%  17%  [ 6 ]
He doesn't support traditional family values. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I'm a liberal or otherwise just checking the poll results. 50%  50%  [ 18 ]
Total votes : 36

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09 Feb 2012, 1:07 am

Welcome to PPR CoMF. This is the place where all the kewl kids hang out :P


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09 Feb 2012, 1:22 am

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Welcome to PPR CoMF. This is the place where all the kewl kids hang out :P


Thanks for the welcome. I appreciate it. :D



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09 Feb 2012, 2:00 am

Hey you liberals just checking poll results. Are you happy with your anointed savior?

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09 Feb 2012, 2:02 am

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He is inefficient.

For the sake of disclosure, I am about as liberal as it gets.


You want a full bore industrial strength Liberal neo-fascist, not one who is satisfied with halfway measures.

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09 Feb 2012, 2:46 am

ruveyn wrote:
Hey you liberals just checking poll results. Are you happy with your anointed savior?

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As others have pointed out none of the complaints liberals have against him are included. I doubt any liberal who isn't uninformed or apathetic considers Obama good at all


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09 Feb 2012, 2:51 am

Vigilans wrote:
I doubt any liberal who isn't uninformed or apathetic considers Obama good at all


Especially "classical liberals."



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09 Feb 2012, 2:53 am

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Hey you liberals just checking poll results. Are you happy with your anointed savior?

ruveyn


I can just imagine you as Eward G. Robinson in The Ten Commandments, shouting with contemptuous glee, "Where is your savior now?!?!"

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09 Feb 2012, 5:46 am

My biggest issue with Obama's Presidency is the perpetual desperate, foaming-at-the-mouth insanity and unfailing unwillingness to cooperate that seems to have possessed the Republicans in Congress ever since they realized the current man in the Oval Office has a slightly different complexion and tows a different party line than his predecessor. I mean, they were bad before, but... not like this.

No, no, conservatives, I kid. :P Seriously, though, there are some criticisms that can be made from the left, too-- for example, the way in which the clandestine drone campaigns over Pakistan have been handled, or the way the healthcare "reform" package that finally got pushed through didn't look a thing like Canadian or European-style systems, or the way that Wall Street bankers still haven't been held fully accountable for their part in the housing crisis, or simply the way he seems to let himself be walked on and drowned out by conservatives without fighting back. Let's be realistic, though-- when he campaigned for president, it was pretty obvious he was going to be a conservative Democrat, and he wasn't going to aggravate easily. His conciliatory approach and levelheadedness were two of the big reasons he seemed so appealing to the electorate in 2008 in the first place (well, that, and the other guy was willing to put Mrs. Moose Hunter in his co-pilot seat). If you're disappointed in him, liberals... well... consider the alternative.

And what do we have to show for the presidency of this awful, secretly Muslim, Kenyan autocrat being in power? Private sector job growth has drastically improved since he took office, we've somewhat redeemed ourselves with a significant portion of the international community, we're out of one of the two unpopular theaters of war that his predecessor left him to clean up, the days of "Don't Ask Don't Tell" are over, and our Public Enemy #1 is rotting at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. Doesn't that count for something-- especially when you consider from whom he inherited the job?


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09 Feb 2012, 5:54 am

Chevand wrote:
My biggest issue with Obama's Presidency is the perpetual desperate, foaming-at-the-mouth insanity and unfailing unwillingness to cooperate that seems to have possessed the Republicans in Congress ever since they realized the current man in the Oval Office has a slightly different complexion and tows a different party line than his predecessor. I mean, they were bad before, but... not like this.

No, no, conservatives, I kid. :P Seriously, though, there are some criticisms that can be made from the left, too-- for example, the way in which the clandestine drone campaigns over Pakistan have been handled, or the way the healthcare "reform" package that finally got pushed through didn't look a thing like Canadian or European-style systems, or the way that Wall Street bankers still haven't been held fully accountable for their part in the housing crisis, or simply the way he seems to let himself be walked on and drowned out by conservatives without fighting back. Let's be realistic, though-- when he campaigned for president, it was pretty obvious he was going to be a conservative Democrat, and he wasn't going to aggravate easily. His conciliatory approach and levelheadedness were two of the big reasons he seemed so appealing to the electorate in 2008 in the first place (well, that, and the other guy was willing to put Mrs. Moose Hunter in his co-pilot seat). If you're disappointed in him, liberals... well... consider the alternative.

And what do we have to show for the presidency of this awful, secretly Muslim, Kenyan autocrat being in power? Private sector job growth has drastically improved since he took office, we've somewhat redeemed ourselves with a significant portion of the international community, we're out of one of the two unpopular theaters of war that his predecessor left him to clean up, the days of "Don't Ask Don't Tell" are over, and our Public Enemy #1 is rotting at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. Doesn't that count for something-- especially when you consider from whom he inherited the job?


I couldn't have said it better.
Though I must disagree with you on one point - Bin Laden more likely than not is fish poop now.

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09 Feb 2012, 6:18 am

I'll bite. His environmental record is not the best, particuarly in protecting the North American Wolf and Polar bears and allowing fracking.
He's still better than the Republicans though which mystifies me. There is no virtue more conservative than conservation, but the Republicans almost to a man are anti-environmentalists.



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09 Feb 2012, 6:36 am

He is a murderer and doing his best to stamp out freedom in this country.



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09 Feb 2012, 6:54 am

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He is a murderer and doing his best to stamp out freedom in this country.


Examples, please.

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09 Feb 2012, 6:57 am

Chevand wrote:
or the way that Wall Street bankers still haven't been held fully accountable for their part in the housing crisis[...]

have you forgotten who blew up the housing market? do you know who tried to blow the whistle before Bush nullified all the state's anti predatory lending laws?

oh, this is going to be fun, let me re-write that for you.

Private sector job growth has tanked since he took office, we've screwed ourselves with a significant portion of the international community, we've added two more unpopular theaters of war that his predecessor helped plan 25 years ago, the days of "Don't Ask Don't Tell" are over, and our national embarrassment who has been dead for 10 years is rotting at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. Doesn't that count for something-- especially when you consider from whom he inherited the job?



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09 Feb 2012, 7:29 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

I can just imagine you as Eward G. Robinson in The Ten Commandments, shouting with contemptuous glee, "Where is your savior now?!?!"

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



Nyaaaaa See!..........

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09 Feb 2012, 7:33 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
He is a murderer and doing his best to stamp out freedom in this country.


Examples, please.

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expansion of the war in Afghanistan, the bombing campaign in Pakistan, the assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki, NDAA, SOPA/PIPA/ACTA, plenty more



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09 Feb 2012, 7:34 am

Barak Obama is the spiritual and intellectual love child of Saul Alinsky and Richard M. Daley. Lord Obama learned how to hate America from one of the smartest trouble makers of all times, Saul Alinsky, and he learned corrupt politics from Richard M. Daley. Obama is so tough he could be Ram Emanuel to a pulp.

Obama exhibits the worst of both.

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