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It is pretty funny, the candidates(Newt and Frothy) that have courted evangelicals the most are both Catholic. Bachmann who played that card as well was a Lutheran.
Bachmann had in fact cut her ties to the denomination she had been brought up in, the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. Because the Wisconsin Synod had believed the Pope was Antichrist (as in "opposed to Christ," not THE Antichrist as they had been accused of, as Lutherans have no such beliefs) she had developed a case of moral cowardice, and dropped out of the church she had been born and raised in. But even before then, Bachmann had left her spiritual Lutheran roots by embracing evangelical theology, with all it's happy clappy worship, and the theology of being born again as a 'choice," which is hardly Lutheran.
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The American left is nearly centre, not "radical leftist".
Maybe you haven’t seen the American far right, then. Compared to them I’m a crying liberal and I am a conservative.
So yes, from the prespective of the American right the democrats in America are radical left. How right and left are scaled elsewhere is of little consequence.
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Can I wear my SS uniform instead? I’ve spent hours today polishing the boots all the way down to the hobnails.
Just kidding.
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The American left is nearly centre, not "radical leftist".
Maybe you haven’t seen the American far right, then. Compared to them I’m a crying liberal and I am a conservative.
So yes, from the prespective of the American right the democrats in America are radical left. How right and left are scaled elsewhere is of little consequence.
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Can I wear my SS uniform instead? I’ve spent hours today polishing the boots all the way down to the hobnails.
Just kidding.
Maybe the far right are just nucking futs.
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The American left is nearly centre, not "radical leftist".
Maybe you haven’t seen the American far right, then. Compared to them I’m a crying liberal and I am a conservative.
So yes, from the prespective of the American right the democrats in America are radical left. How right and left are scaled elsewhere is of little consequence.
I have seen the far right. They are complete wackos.
And how the rest of the world scales *is* important... politics are not defined by any one country. Calling Democrats left is simple incorrect, a lie.
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The American left is nearly centre, not "radical leftist".
Maybe you haven’t seen the American far right, then. Compared to them I’m a crying liberal and I am a conservative.
So yes, from the prespective of the American right the democrats in America are radical left. How right and left are scaled elsewhere is of little consequence.
I have seen the far right. They are complete wackos.
And how the rest of the world scales *is* important... politics are not defined by any one country. Calling Democrats left is simple incorrect, a lie.
Umm, we vote only in our own countries last time I checked. That being the case then what passes for left and right in Lower Slobovia or wherever doesn't factor in to it very much. The world is obviosly not standardized.
Besides, your argument is like saying that Florida can't have a north end because it's too far south or Oregon can't have an east side because it's too far west.
Whatever entertains you, though..............
Deny reality all you want, but the fact remains your fooling yourself call Democrats leftists.
Mayhap you're just annoyed at being so at odds with centrists...
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True, the GOP isn't as socially conservative as I'd like to see it.
I’ve known several older people that used to be democrats in their younger years but switched over when the democratic agenda became more radically leftist, especially on social issues.
If the GOP was any more socially conservative, Republicans would wear white pointed hoods and burn crosses on the lawn of the White House.
It may interest you to know that my great-grandfather was murdered while opposing the Ku Klux Klan. Now, would you like me to insert your foot in your mouth for you, or do you plan on doing it yourself?
-Longshanks, descendant of a victim of the Ku Klux Klan
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True, the GOP isn't as socially conservative as I'd like to see it.
I’ve known several older people that used to be democrats in their younger years but switched over when the democratic agenda became more radically leftist, especially on social issues.
If the GOP was any more socially conservative, Republicans would wear white pointed hoods and burn crosses on the lawn of the White House.
It may interest you to know that my great-grandfather was murdered while opposing the Ku Klux Klan. Now, would you like me to insert your foot in your mouth for you, or do you plan on doing it yourself?
-Longshanks, descendant of a victim of the Ku Klux Klan
I take my hat off to your esteemed ancestor.
After the First World War, when the whole country saw a resurgence of the KKK - even in my home region of the Pacific Northwest - one of my great uncles almost got wrangled into joining those hooded dicks. My grandfather, as well as my great grandmother, had talked him out of it. Not long afterward, a Klan recruiter came around to my grandfather's farm, and told him that there were a lot of people around who were Klan, and if he stuck his nose into Klan business again, he might find his haystack on fire one of these nights. Well, my grandfather countered with, "Well, a lot of us around here belong to the IWW." As you probably know, the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), otherwise known as the Wobblies, were a radical labor union most active in the far west, and who were known to break heads when threatened. My grandfather had become affiliated with them after hitting the road in the last days of the wild west, and having to work dangerous, poorly paying jobs prior to settling down to farm. Mention of the IWW got the Klan recruiter backpedaling on his threat pretty quick. Other than a few more threats, the local Klan were too gutless to retaliate against my grandfather or his family.
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My great grandfather was the commisioner of roads and a part-time deputy sheriff during prohibition in Delta County, Michigan. He raided and destroyed one too many whiskey stills and was shot to death in front of his wife and 13 children. A cross was burned in the front lawn. My grandfather had to drop out of school at 14 to support the family. I hope Crazy Cat feels real good about that post.
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It's best not to take the jabs of other WP members too personally, or else you'll die of bleeding ulcers.
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That is a poor defense and you know it. My family has defended our country for generations. But not for that crap.
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Aren't you conservative though? Those are socially conservative actions.
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Aren't you conservative though? Those are socially conservative actions.
You have the sensitivity of a Nazi, abacacus.
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You really are too tense for your own good. As I've said before, I respect your service to our country, but that doesn't diminish anyone else' right to their opinion, whether you like that opinion or not.
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Oh hell no. I'm shocked at how far he's gotten in the race (which is close to nowhere) with his beliefs.
BTW, the Novus Ordo mass can be recited in Latin too. Santorum isn't a traditionalist.
-a Latin Rite Tridentine Catholic fundamentalist.
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Aren't you conservative though? Those are socially conservative actions.
You have the sensitivity of a Nazi, abacacus.
It's a matter of logic.
Social Conservative people murdered one of your ancestors, and yet you are a social conservative. There is no logic there.
I don't see why I should be sensitive in this situation.
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