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02 Mar 2012, 12:21 am

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Well, if you want a flipside to this, to see how your mother is viewing you and your situation, think of it this way. Imagine you have a kid who becomes Christian in your atheist household, how would you handle his newfound beliefs? Just something for you to think about.


This situation sounds a little nuttier than that.
His mom isnt even consistent. I agree the fault is not religion per se. Its that his mom inconsistent,and became fanatic suddenly because of this one event she witnessed.

His Mom actually indulged his atheism for a while, and then suddenly came down hard on him ( shes the one who is acting with suddenness). And she is doing this because she apparently got traumatized by an event that didnt really happen. Namely a student in her class become "possessed". The student probably really did flip out, but for other more mundane reasons but his Mom bought into the groupthink that it was a real demonic possession.



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02 Mar 2012, 12:26 am

naturalplastic wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
Well, if you want a flipside to this, to see how your mother is viewing you and your situation, think of it this way. Imagine you have a kid who becomes Christian in your atheist household, how would you handle his newfound beliefs? Just something for you to think about.


This situation sounds a little nuttier than that.
His mom isnt even consistent. I agree the fault is not religion per se. Its that his mom inconsistent,and became fanatic suddenly because of this one event she witnessed.

His Mom actually indulged his atheism for a while, and then suddenly came down hard on him ( shes the one who is acting with suddenness). And she is doing this because she apparently got traumatized by an event that didnt really happen. Namely a student in her class become "possessed". The student probably really did flip out, but for other more mundane reasons but his Mom bought into the groupthink that it was a real demonic possession.


in case your wondering my mom teaches the Severely Emotionally Disturbed at Madera High School, its like a 45 minute drive from my house.

you hit the situation im in on the nail

im formerly Roman Catholic, i went to CCD and was preparing for the Rapture and everything, that's why i say the Rapture is the only thing that will convince me that God exists

for those of you who don't know CCD is Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, it's essentially for brainwashing children i was in it from 1st grade to 6th, i was also in my church children's choir for like 5 years


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02 Mar 2012, 12:31 am

my mom was never a practicing Christian before but today she started buying all sorts of books and crosses and stuff she even had a priest bless some holy water, that she started spraying me with and so i said "mom, your a fool and an a** of yourself." and i went to my room


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02 Mar 2012, 12:54 am

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She sounds genuinely terrified of demons, which is ridiculous for a modern adult in the developed world, but I have a tiny bit of sympathy for her. I also feel for you because parents need to be consistent; changing the way she interacts with you so dramatically and suddenly is terribly confusing. If the whole demonic possession thing wasn't considered a valid part of Catholicism (I assume your Mum is Catholic), I'd actually worry about her mental health.


like half a dozen people allegedly saw the possession including the police officer(he was the one who took kid to Church)

@Hyperlexian i haven't said anything yet, i tried to talk to my mom but she refused to listen and told me she doesn't want me saying any of my Atheist bulls*** anymore, i gave that as a possible option AFTER i get a job(searching, had 1 interview so i guess that's a good thing)


That cop ought to be disciplined - if not fired - for pulling a stunt like bringing a dangerously muscular, mentally ill teen to a church to have the devil driven from him, rather than getting him "real" help.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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02 Mar 2012, 1:13 am

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She sounds genuinely terrified of demons, which is ridiculous for a modern adult in the developed world, but I have a tiny bit of sympathy for her. I also feel for you because parents need to be consistent; changing the way she interacts with you so dramatically and suddenly is terribly confusing. If the whole demonic possession thing wasn't considered a valid part of Catholicism (I assume your Mum is Catholic), I'd actually worry about her mental health.


like half a dozen people allegedly saw the possession including the police officer(he was the one who took kid to Church)

@Hyperlexian i haven't said anything yet, i tried to talk to my mom but she refused to listen and told me she doesn't want me saying any of my Atheist bulls*** anymore, i gave that as a possible option AFTER i get a job(searching, had 1 interview so i guess that's a good thing)


That cop ought to be disciplined - if not fired - for pulling a stunt like bringing a dangerously muscular, mentally ill teen to a church to have the devil driven from him, rather than getting him "real" help.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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@ King: are you headed off to college any time soon? &/or is your level of aspiness such that you are capable of holding down a job amongst NTs?



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02 Mar 2012, 1:24 am

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TheKing wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
She sounds genuinely terrified of demons, which is ridiculous for a modern adult in the developed world, but I have a tiny bit of sympathy for her. I also feel for you because parents need to be consistent; changing the way she interacts with you so dramatically and suddenly is terribly confusing. If the whole demonic possession thing wasn't considered a valid part of Catholicism (I assume your Mum is Catholic), I'd actually worry about her mental health.


like half a dozen people allegedly saw the possession including the police officer(he was the one who took kid to Church)

@Hyperlexian i haven't said anything yet, i tried to talk to my mom but she refused to listen and told me she doesn't want me saying any of my Atheist bulls*** anymore, i gave that as a possible option AFTER i get a job(searching, had 1 interview so i guess that's a good thing)


That cop ought to be disciplined - if not fired - for pulling a stunt like bringing a dangerously muscular, mentally ill teen to a church to have the devil driven from him, rather than getting him "real" help.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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@ King: are you headed off to college any time soon? &/or is your level of aspiness such that you are capable of holding down a job amongst NTs?


im hoping to head to college next year after i graduate High School

i have never had a job, but generally, other than being severely eccentric, most don't know im an aspie until a) they know me well enough to just assume that i am or b) i tell them. i don't have public meltdowns and i taught myself to discreetly stim, its quite obvious im different than N/Ts but i function decently in N/T society


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02 Mar 2012, 1:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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puddingmouse wrote:
She sounds genuinely terrified of demons, which is ridiculous for a modern adult in the developed world, but I have a tiny bit of sympathy for her. I also feel for you because parents need to be consistent; changing the way she interacts with you so dramatically and suddenly is terribly confusing. If the whole demonic possession thing wasn't considered a valid part of Catholicism (I assume your Mum is Catholic), I'd actually worry about her mental health.


like half a dozen people allegedly saw the possession including the police officer(he was the one who took kid to Church)

@Hyperlexian i haven't said anything yet, i tried to talk to my mom but she refused to listen and told me she doesn't want me saying any of my Atheist bulls*** anymore, i gave that as a possible option AFTER i get a job(searching, had 1 interview so i guess that's a good thing)


That cop ought to be disciplined - if not fired - for pulling a stunt like bringing a dangerously muscular, mentally ill teen to a church to have the devil driven from him, rather than getting him "real" help.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


i agree, not only was it against regulation, but he potentially put my mom as well as the priest and himself in unnecessary danger

my mom has another student like Jorge who, after not taking his medicine, put the schools best security guard in the hospital because without his medicine he couldn't distinguish the security guard from the "demons" her kids are normally very nice and friendly its only when they pull stunts like taking themselves off their medicine that they become a danger to others, normally they are harmless


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02 Mar 2012, 1:41 am

TheKing wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheKing wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
She sounds genuinely terrified of demons, which is ridiculous for a modern adult in the developed world, but I have a tiny bit of sympathy for her. I also feel for you because parents need to be consistent; changing the way she interacts with you so dramatically and suddenly is terribly confusing. If the whole demonic possession thing wasn't considered a valid part of Catholicism (I assume your Mum is Catholic), I'd actually worry about her mental health.


like half a dozen people allegedly saw the possession including the police officer(he was the one who took kid to Church)

@Hyperlexian i haven't said anything yet, i tried to talk to my mom but she refused to listen and told me she doesn't want me saying any of my Atheist bulls*** anymore, i gave that as a possible option AFTER i get a job(searching, had 1 interview so i guess that's a good thing)


That cop ought to be disciplined - if not fired - for pulling a stunt like bringing a dangerously muscular, mentally ill teen to a church to have the devil driven from him, rather than getting him "real" help.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


i agree, not only was it against regulation, but he potentially put my mom as well as the priest and himself in unnecessary danger

my mom has another student like Jorge who, after not taking his medicine, put the schools best security guard in the hospital because without his medicine he couldn't distinguish the security guard from the "demons" her kids are normally very nice and friendly its only when they pull stunts like taking themselves off their medicine that they become a danger to others, normally they are harmless


My heart goes out to people like your Mom, who help those who no one else wants to.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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02 Mar 2012, 7:13 am

...Hehehe. I am actually starting to kind of like this guy's mom. She's big-hearted and wacky. That's some of my favorite kind of people!

Like I said, she just had a fright, and she'll come to her senses before long.

By this, I don't mean she'll suddenly one day go back to being a non-practicing sort of Christian, but this happened to my father after his scare with cancer. He eventually stopped being an annoying holy roller, and his religious interests started coming out more level-headed, less like the acting out of someone who just had a major scare. Her behavior is normal, under the circumstances.



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02 Mar 2012, 7:44 am

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My mom used to support me in my beliefs, even though she is Christian, yesterday she allegedly saw one of her students in her SED class possessed and the school police officer took him to a church to be exorcised, apparently his grandma cursed his family. today my mom got me a crucifix which i immediately said F*** NO to and my mom forbade me from saying ANYTHING about Atheism anymore.......im sorry who i am is not going to change if she can't accept that im gonna tell her to f*** off and she will be dead to me, my favorite Uncle(strident Atheist and moms favorite brother) is already dead, my older brother has already abandoned us just because we hate his new wife, so i wonder how mom will act if i abandoned her also?


Hmmm. Weird. As an outsider, I guess I find this a little humorous. Exorcisions are BS. Hopefully your mom will realize this one day.

In the meanwhile, it may be best for your own well-being to simply go along with her insanity.



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02 Mar 2012, 9:20 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
TheKing wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
TheKing wrote:
puddingmouse wrote:
She sounds genuinely terrified of demons, which is ridiculous for a modern adult in the developed world, but I have a tiny bit of sympathy for her. I also feel for you because parents need to be consistent; changing the way she interacts with you so dramatically and suddenly is terribly confusing. If the whole demonic possession thing wasn't considered a valid part of Catholicism (I assume your Mum is Catholic), I'd actually worry about her mental health.


like half a dozen people allegedly saw the possession including the police officer(he was the one who took kid to Church)

@Hyperlexian i haven't said anything yet, i tried to talk to my mom but she refused to listen and told me she doesn't want me saying any of my Atheist bulls*** anymore, i gave that as a possible option AFTER i get a job(searching, had 1 interview so i guess that's a good thing)


That cop ought to be disciplined - if not fired - for pulling a stunt like bringing a dangerously muscular, mentally ill teen to a church to have the devil driven from him, rather than getting him "real" help.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


i agree, not only was it against regulation, but he potentially put my mom as well as the priest and himself in unnecessary danger

my mom has another student like Jorge who, after not taking his medicine, put the schools best security guard in the hospital because without his medicine he couldn't distinguish the security guard from the "demons" her kids are normally very nice and friendly its only when they pull stunts like taking themselves off their medicine that they become a danger to others, normally they are harmless


My heart goes out to people like your Mom, who help those who no one else wants to.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



before she taught SED she spent 8 years in charge of our towns GRIP(Gang Risk Intervention Program) which later became VIP(Violence Intervention Program)


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02 Mar 2012, 10:24 am

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for my 17th birthday present my mom bought me The Quotable Atheist and The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, she even bought me The God Delusion a few months later, now she is saying i am not allowed to express myself anymore? WTF???

You are 18 now, correct? This means that you are legally an adult, with the full right to free speech. You also have the full legal right to worship (or not) as you see fit.

Once you are on your own, you will finally be free to speak and (not) worship, and without the parental harassment!

You may want to remind your mother of these facts...



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02 Mar 2012, 12:09 pm

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it's possible to disagree about religion and yet still be respectful. if you do not like how your mother is approaching your beliefs, you might want to sit down and have a heartfelt conversation as opposed to swearing at her or attacking her beliefs.

if you are living in her house then i can see how it could be uncomfortable. so if it gets intolerable to the point where you are going to start using foul language, you may want to consider finding a way to move out instead of making your relationship even worse. it can be tough to live with someone who has very different beliefs when they are pushing them on you, but because she is your mother she is probably extremely concerned about your immortal soul or whatever. your best bet is to gain some independence, if applicable.



The problem with his mom is that she's more than just religious, she's a superstitious idiot who has lost all common sense.


Since when do police escort someone to a church because people think they're "possessed"???



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02 Mar 2012, 1:27 pm

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Since when do police escort someone to a church because people think they're "possessed"???


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02 Mar 2012, 1:52 pm

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Since when do police escort someone to a church because people think they're "possessed"???


AMERICA!! F*** YEAH!! !


my mom said that the cop was supposed to write up a 5150 on Jorge but the cop was Christian and immediately took Jorge and my mom to the church, after the exorcism Jorge's dad started freaking out as well(leading everyone to believe him to be possessed also) thats when they found out Jorge's grandma supposedly "cursed" his family because she is apparently a Bruja(Mexican Witch)

personally i dont buy it, i blame the cop for being an idiot, my mom normally isnt like this this is the first time she ever been superstitious and heavily religious to the point of intolerance of other peoples' beliefs


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02 Mar 2012, 2:21 pm

@King, I would suggest keeping your head down until/unless you're out of the house. At least you don't have to worry that she's going to ship you to Saudi Arabia to marry your 40 year old cousin.