The Philosophy of Scientology

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this is just part of being a 'player' to some degree, everyone, even non-hollywood types are expected to be a player of some sort of game. like a job, in relationships, you take turns you share information or you do not. you go to the gym to help your 'performance' you take classes to help you understand the world, or a subject better as to become skilled or advanced in it, an expert if you will. people have titles and positions. if you are a student there is a teacher to match you. your boss is above you 'in the chain' of life. everyone has a place, some people can 'move' thier placement by working real hard, networking, or winning the lottery, but regardless there is still a placement or position, socially or 'in the game' which you hold. people will have expectations of you, whether or not you have them of them or yourself. everything is wholly interconnected. as i said in another post, there aren't any 'true coincidences'. whether you believe in god or a higher power is one thing, but undoubtably there are people who are considered as being "better" then you, me or the next person. this may be because they achieved something great, like scientifically or in the medical field, or it could be because they 'won' the heart of their audience in some film. it's all pretty relative. things don't really 'matter' nothing has any value, other then the personal value that you place on it. for people with "Aspergers" or some other illness, does it really 'matter' that you have it, or think that you have it? or is it just important for you to know or think that you know what your 'problem' is so you can classify it or categorize it? psychology in itself is a baby science. it is not something wholly that you can prove one way or another, as people are fickle, they lie, and do not have all of the answers. humans are imperfect beings. we are not machines, everything has its breaking point. entropy. although this is not a complete accurate example, you get the idea. the only way that things really "work" is for them to be maintained. i think that some of the problems with people on the spectrum (although undiagnosed, myself included) is the problem with personal maintanance. to focus perhaps, narrowly on one thing and not on another. to be able to balance yourself personally would help benefit your being in the long run.

imo, telling people you have AS only gives them a personal advantage over you. it is like the example of the "player" (NT) having "pieces" (AS)in which he personally operates over. the player knows the game and he/she therefore has even more mobility then before knowing how to define you, and classify you. the mysteriousness of AS or Autie people confuses the "player" in their game for they do not know how to define such a thing. like this "cure autism" crap, it is yet another "strategy" for NT's to use perhaps against this community.

from what i've read here. AS people are just as intelligent, if not moreso in some instances then the NT community. there is not much of a difference between thier levels of understanding technical information. the approaches and applications to those ideas are very different though.

as before. i'm rambling. these are just some of my thoughts regarding belief systems and applications of ideas between different communities.

there is no "right" or "wrong" that doesn't really exist. those are "values" some shared between people, some not.
you ascribe to what you know, and what you've done or has worked for you before. people are mostly concerned with working with like-minded individuals, and those that will help them to prosper.

anyone with any thoughts/ideas. feel free to share.
thanks

If there is a heaven, I think Ron L Hubbard is rolling on the floor laughing that people are taking his game so seriously.

Surely he invented scientology as a joke.

If anyone is in the "church" of scientology, given it is not Christian, why do you use a cross in your corporate registered trademark logo?

So scientology is another name for cyncism then? Seriously, this sounds like cynicism formalized. Cynical people tend to distrust other people's motives, assuming everyone is primarily motivated by self-interest, covert or not. Cynical people often behave this way themselves and are merely projecting their own attitude onto everyone else. Truly there are people who make their lives revolve around social games and a consensual reality, but these people are vapid and shallow because they never found anything better to do with their time than use people to get ahead within their circle of peers.

Perfectly stated, I've noticed this aspect in a lot of people..

ie: calling everyone around them liars because they're lieing themself...

Scientology is a joke. When you look at some of the elements, there will be, at some level some level of thought. And this might have the illusion of holding wisdom.

Seems to me that Scientology is amongst the most shallow of all religions.

But then, it IS a cult designed just to get money. If the people got real answers, they wouldn't feel a need to give the cult more money.


The answers are often not nearly as important as the questions that are asked.

Scientology is in my eyes a scam. Of course, many religions have in some instances operated as scams. Think of the Christian TV preachers who have fallen after it was revealed that they did the same things against which they preached, and enjoyed their position for the power and the money. These mainstream religious leaders, liked the church leaders of the middle ages who sold salvation to finance their aristocratic lifestyles and cathedral construction projects, effectively turn their religion into what amounts to be a scam.

But what is perhaps unique about Scientology is that, unlike the mainstream religions, it was probably devised to be a scam from its very outset. In what was known as the "Golden Age of Sci-Fi", clever L. Ron Hubbard wrote many successful science fiction novels and even contributed to some Hollywood screenplays. In his youth he travelled widely, picking up ideas from eastern society and the occult. As a sailor in WWII he picked up ideas from the applications of modern psychology that were used in the US military. In the late 1940s, he devised the pseudoscience Dianetics, which became the basis for the religion Scientology. Like his other works of fiction, the first published book on Dianetics, which I have read, sold very well. (To lend credibility to the first Dianetics book, he had to first set-up an "Insitute" to carry out tests.)

Religion fills a need in society, and people need a religion that is both scientific and honest. Scientology is not scientific (although it tries to pass itself off as such) nor is it entirely honest. It fulfills the religious needs of its adherents... Look at Tom Cruise and how passionate he is about Scientology. He could be like a guest on the Christian TV station TBN in his fervor about the gospel--the Dianetics gospel that is.

Ironically, the psychiatric drugs that Scientology strongly disdains--in this case, tranquilizers and sedatives--were found by the autopsy of Hubbard.

Ironically, the psychiatric drugs that Scientology strongly disdains--in this case, tranquilizers and sedatives--were found by the autopsy of Hubbard.[/quote]

that's strange. why don't they use these drugs? ^^^^ is it forbidden???