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28 Mar 2012, 2:30 pm

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Look at racism this way its just like Aids their is no cure and it will not go away racism is alive in well in every country on the planet.

Racism is a paradigm whereas AIDS is the result of HIV infection. A cure for HIV seems likely, if potentially distant. To remove a paradigm takes time and disarmament. It is also harder to do when you consider the wealth of information available and the interconnectedness of global society that prevents any idea from going quietly

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28 Mar 2012, 2:40 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Joker wrote:

Look at racism this way its just like Aids their is no cure and it will not go away racism is alive in well in every country on the planet.

Sure you can cure HIV but when it becomes full blown aids their is no hope no cure kinda like with racism it can start out as something that can be treated until it becomes a fire that just spreads hate engulfing people with ignorance ang bigotry.

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28 Mar 2012, 2:44 pm

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I've heard several people say "Obama isn't really black, he's just mixed"

Well... He is mixed. He is just as white as he is black.

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28 Mar 2012, 3:25 pm

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OliveOilMom wrote:

I've heard several people say "Obama isn't really black, he's just mixed"

Well... He is mixed. He is just as white as he is black.

But seriously, when people are asked what color the president is, almost everyone will say black.

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28 Mar 2012, 3:27 pm

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Jacoby wrote:

OliveOilMom wrote:

I've heard several people say "Obama isn't really black, he's just mixed"

Well... He is mixed. He is just as white as he is black.

But seriously, when people are asked what color the president is, almost everyone will say black.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

He is an ovaltine skinned Muslim liberal socialist

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28 Mar 2012, 3:30 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

OliveOilMom wrote:

I've heard several people say "Obama isn't really black, he's just mixed"

Well... He is mixed. He is just as white as he is black.

But seriously, when people are asked what color the president is, almost everyone will say black.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

He is an ovaltine skinned Muslim liberal socialist

!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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28 Mar 2012, 3:33 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

OliveOilMom wrote:

I've heard several people say "Obama isn't really black, he's just mixed"

Well... He is mixed. He is just as white as he is black.

But seriously, when people are asked what color the president is, almost everyone will say black.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

He is an ovaltine skinned Muslim liberal socialist

So is a ex girlfriend of mine true story.

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28 Mar 2012, 3:35 pm

Most guys dated at least one atheist muslim socialist jew girl in their young days of rebellion

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28 Mar 2012, 3:36 pm

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Most guys dated at least one atheist muslim socialist jew girl in their young days of rebellion

I dated her out of love she was sweet.

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28 Mar 2012, 3:37 pm

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Most guys dated at least one atheist muslim socialist jew girl in their young days of rebellion

I didn't.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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28 Mar 2012, 3:38 pm

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Vigilans wrote:

Most guys dated at least one atheist muslim socialist jew girl in their young days of rebellion

I didn't.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Then you sir are a true red blooded 'merican patriot

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28 Mar 2012, 3:39 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Vigilans wrote:

Most guys dated at least one atheist muslim socialist jew girl in their young days of rebellion

I didn't.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Then you sir are a true red blooded 'merican patriot

Trust me, it wasn't by choice. Before I had met my wife, very few women would have given me the time of day.

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29 Mar 2012, 7:13 pm

TM wrote:

Yes and no. The what used to be racism is more or less dead in most places in the western world, but there is a trend of using "racism" as a name for non-race related actions and statements. For instance, I believe that Western European based culture and values are better from an objective standpoint than Middle Eastern culture and values. This is often referred to as racism, but it has nothing to do with race, it has to do with values.

Okay, would you prefer the term chauvinism? Racists often justify their racism by saying the denigrated race has inferior character, cultures, values, etc. It is certainly fair to criticize practices in another culture as much as it is in one's own. Carrying about the belief in one's own culture's all-around superiority, though, will offend many people's sensibilities.

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29 Mar 2012, 7:16 pm

I don't like Obama because I think he's made horrible decisions, he just says what people want to hear but does not follow through and I don't see him creating any positive change that he went on about having the ability to create. If he was white, or even purple for that matter I would have the same opinion.

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29 Mar 2012, 7:17 pm

Vigilans wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

OliveOilMom wrote:

I've heard several people say "Obama isn't really black, he's just mixed"

Well... He is mixed. He is just as white as he is black.

But seriously, when people are asked what color the president is, almost everyone will say black.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

He is an ovaltine skinned Muslim liberal socialist

he might wish he was a socialist, but he would make a pretty terrible one.

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29 Mar 2012, 7:58 pm

TM wrote:

There is absolutely racism in the United States, and the racism virtually always comes from Republicans, conservatives, right-libertarians, and people who are surrounded by the cultures that those groups create.

But the thing that you and everyone else needs to realize is that the reason that "racism" is, as you say, "used as a name for [supposedly] non-race related actions and statements" is that none of the racists who are acting and/or speaking in these "non-race related" ways are going to come out and openly identify themselves as being racists.

This is because many of them are not even aware that their seemingly "non-race related actions and statements" are motivated by racism. There are numerous peer-reviewed scientific experiments out there (look them up) which demonstrate that people are racist when they don't even know it. So- the honest truth is that the only way to be sure that racism isn't affecting one's actions and statements is to, yes, embrace liberal/progressive/left-leaning/left-wing/Democratic Party-supported/academia-supported views on life and the world.

TM, in the case of your position, it is not a discussion of race, but of culture. And when you're debating the merits of each value, then race and culture are ultimately irrelevant.

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