Was Adolf Hitler an Atheist?

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Atheists can be just as ignorant as the religious.

Yeah, but we don't ignore out ignorance because the all mighty God tells us that we are right.

I dont rule out ignorance either TM.

I think he was a dark occultist and that the holocaust was a giant ritual sacrifice. I think the highest echelons of power in many organizations practice dark forms of alchemy, whether its the Masons, the Vatican, the elite in Israel, or the elite in Saudi Arabia.

I think much of global events in past centuries weren't actual conflicts, but rather people being manipulated (by the same elite) through false political and religious paradigms that made them unwittingly play their selves off as pawns toward the same end game and master plan. I say that, because big banking families, like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, funded the Nazis, the Soviets, Israel, American corporations, and a number of third world, right wing dictatorships.

We laypeople don't have the same values as those in power over us. George Bush, Obama, Queen Elizabeth, David Rothschold, Jay Rockefeller, etc act like they're normal people and that they believe in our values, but, in truth, they see us as mere cattle beneath them.

He was a very dark occultists which has a lot of dark beliefs that are worse then the Sharia laws in Islam.

Hitler didn't want the German population to think for themselves. The people are easier to sway with propaganda if they have a mind set which values faith. Faith is believing something despite all evidence to the contrary.

To answer the question in the thread title...no. Even if he believed in the occult, I would say would rule out atheism, since the occult believes in the supernatural, like other religions.

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The german people at the time were very illiterate if they could have read what was in Mein Kampf then Hitler would have never gained a legion of followers or gain poltical power plus at the time Germany was recovering from a war they didn't start and was forced to pay for.

You aren't disputing my post by saying that. What do you have to say about the point of my post?

When people let their religion get extreme bad thing's happen also by Hitler using propagands and saying the same lie over and over it begins to sound llike the truth.

I agree that extreme religion is worse than moderate religion. My point is that almost all religions are based on faith, which can lead to a lack of critical thinking.

That's another thing about the Islamic world, as well as the Christian world. I think the populace is conditioned by an inner elite (who have their own practices completely different from the public) to take on a religious ideology that makes them more manageable and controllable. I really don't think Saddam Hussein was, himself a Muslim. I think he practiced ancient Babylonian paganism and that much of the leaders of the "Islamic world" do the same". He actually believed himself to be the reincarnation of King Nebuchadnezzar. That's a notion that those indoctrinated in Islam are raised to believe to be heretical.

Saddam was put into power by the CIA in the late 70's, though, possibly because the US inner elite practice Babylonian paganism too, or something similar. When he decided to invade Kuwait in 1990, that's, of course, when his US allies turned on him because he went against their program. The same goes for Hitler. US corporations and banks supported the Nazi ascension into power but cut ties with him once he became a threat to their dominance.


At the Vatican, there's weird esoterica all over the place, that is completely alien to any of the concepts a layperson indoctrinated into the the Catholic faith is familiar with



This is a giant pine cone statue at the Vatican surrounded by two birds. In many esoteric traditions, the pine cone represents the pineal gland (thus the etymology), the only non-paired structure in the brain. Some believe it to be the third eye and necessary for spiritual awakening and ascension. In Indian folklore its called the bindi. In Egyptian folklore, it was called the ben-ben and represented by a pyramid. A bird, the bennu, in many depictions flew around the ben-ben stone and was said to create space-time, much like how the paired structures of the brain, the "temporal" lobes in particular, create temporality. The root "bn" also means ascension.



Some have also pointed out that the eagle and the 'eye' of providence on the US seals also correlate to the ben-ben stone and the bennu bird of ancient folklore.

What's weird is that to laypeople, they're brought up ignorant of the notion of a third eye. However, the elites seem to be aware of it on some level, as evidenced by the pervasiveness of this type of symbolism.

I actually think the pedophilia practiced by priests may even be a part of a dark occult ritual. The fact that the Vatican actually has a process to cover up for it makes me think its systemic on a very deep and ancient level.



I also think its practiced by Islamic clergy as well and that its very similar to child sacrifice in the past. They take a child, specifically because of their innocence, and rape them to steal their vitality and energy. Its also done for reasons of mind control. They traumatize the victim at a very young age to create a split personality to use them as a programmable Manchurian candidate.

The political and religious leaders of the middle ages publicly denounced and condemned any form of esoteric practice from the general public through the witch burnings of alchemists, astrologers, Cathars, Hermeticists, medicine men, etc, etc, while secretly practicing the most vile and dark forms of magic in private. They're masters at mass hypnosis, and they've had centuries to hone their dark arts.

My point though is that I don't think Hitler was a catholic or an atheist and that he practiced something completely different from what he told the unwashed masses he believed. Research his role in the Thule society. I think its the same thing with practically all global leaders. They want the public to think they're god fearing southern Baptists, or God fearing Muslims, or devout Jews, when, in secret, they practice something completely different.

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When it comes to politics I lack no critical thinking but that is right I will not denie it either faith can be a good and bad thing depending on how you choose to look at it my belief is that religion has no place in politics or government thats why I support seperation from church and state.

I didn't mean to imply anything about you, specifically. We agree on separation of church and state. Surprisingly, England does not have a policy of separation of church and state, but if I remember correctly, the majority of the English are not religious.

Oh I knew that but yes seperation from church and state is a good thing for both sides the religious right annoys the hell out of me

Agreed. Some of his followers may have been occultists, but Hitler himself consistently referenced Christianity in writings, speeches and dialogues. There is no evidence tying him to either atheism or the occult.

Everything I know about Hitler points to the fact that he had rejected its central teachings, such as where he had envisioned Christ as a fighter for "justice," instead of as a suffering savior. He even claimed Jesus and his disciples were fighting against the Jews - even though Christ and the twelve were all Jewish(!). I don't recall him ever talking about the focus of Christianity - that Christ had taken on the sins of mankind, and had payed the price for all, despite his own innocence.
As for his promotion of Christianity in his writings and speeches, I personally think this can be chalked up to appealing to the religiosity of the German people - not very different from certain American politicians these days. His making nice with the Catholic Church can be attributed to the Nazi concordant with the Vatican. He also had attempted to create a national German church, which was meant to appeal to German Protestants - which included digging up largely forgotten Antisemitic diatribes written by a then mentally addled Martin Luther (which makes us Lutherans blush in embarrassment, today).
As it turns out, German religiosity under Nazi rule had shrank to lower levels than in even modern Germany. Under Hitler's aegis, the state had become the focus of worship, and Hitler himself had become the fascist messiah. One former SS officer, who has since become a Catholic monk, has said how after Judaism was eliminated, the Nazi plan had been to destroy Catholic worship, followed by Protestantism.
So, was Hitler a real Christian? While he certainly, as the master politician he was, knew how to use Christian faith and symbolism to manipulate the people, he very probably was in reality a self-worshiping narcissist.
As for the occult, as with Christianity, Hitler knew how to manipulate people who actually had bought into it - which was much wider spread in Europe at that time than most people realize. But while idiots like Himmler, Hess, and Goebbels had bought into the occult, Hitler actually never did.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer