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09 Apr 2012, 4:18 pm

Take a look at what you yourself did.

Thanks to politicians, not having enough money is not our fault. It is their fault. We can go live guilt-free lives from now on.


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09 Apr 2012, 4:34 pm

I'm not Anti-Gay... I just think God hates fags


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09 Apr 2012, 4:45 pm

Vigilans wrote:
I'm not Anti-Gay... I just think God hates fags


Then why give God credence for his hate?



09 Apr 2012, 4:45 pm

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I don't understand what the problem is. In the romantic sub-plot of the game, Mass Effect allows for the possibility of homosexual romantic relationships by allowing the player to have relationships with the same characters regardless of what gender you choose for your player character. You can still choose to be straight and male if you want but at least the games also cater to the minority of LGBT gamers.



Because it's actually part of a covert gay recruitment strategy. Particularly aimed at young men. :lol:

They give the option of playing a straight character to make it SEEM like they're trying to be inclusive, but soon there will be peer pressure to play gay characters and homosexual experimentation IRL.



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09 Apr 2012, 5:14 pm

Jono wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
I'm not Anti-Gay... I just think God hates fags


Then why give God credence for his hate?


That is the right question


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09 Apr 2012, 5:26 pm

I am afraid gay recruitment was present even before this attempt:

Take a look at what one poster called "A paedo-anarchist extraordinaire":

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEzTTfhLcwA[/youtube]

How can you find a person who touches boys and other men like that acceptable and funny? Disgusting!! ! Obvious propaganda to indoctrinate males into tolerating this.

Plus, I am not sure if you realize this, but did you ever watch the old GI Joe cartoons? I think there was something between Zartan, the Baroness, and the Cobra Twins. Don't you think it was strange the Twins could finish each other's sentence, and Zartan was SO sketchy concerning his behavior?



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09 Apr 2012, 5:31 pm

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It is just so sad that people can't be gay and be left alone homophobes often term out to be gay themselfs like Larry Craig.


Being homophobic has nothing to do with your own sexual orientation. Even in that experiment where homophobes were aroused by gay porn sorts of can be easily explained by being aroused by the idea of being one of those person involved into the porn or being aroused by the emotions rather than being aroused by the idea of actually engaging into homosexual sex. Asides, I have to repeat your sexual orientation does not have always to do with how you act or your own action.



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09 Apr 2012, 7:02 pm

Reptillian wrote:
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It is just so sad that people can't be gay and be left alone homophobes often term out to be gay themselfs like Larry Craig.


Being homophobic has nothing to do with your own sexual orientation. Even in that experiment where homophobes were aroused by gay porn sorts of can be easily explained by being aroused by the idea of being one of those person involved into the porn or being aroused by the emotions rather than being aroused by the idea of actually engaging into homosexual sex. Asides, I have to repeat your sexual orientation does not have always to do with how you act or your own action.


I know I was just using homophobes as a emample of people who have a problem giving gay men or women their rights as people.

BTW I am Bigender and Omisexual



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09 Apr 2012, 8:46 pm

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by being aroused by the idea of being one of those person involved into the porn or being aroused by the emotions rather than being aroused by the idea of actually engaging into homosexual sex.

I am unable to tell the difference.


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09 Apr 2012, 8:50 pm

The difference is that one isn't about actually engaging in homosexual activities.



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09 Apr 2012, 8:51 pm

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The difference is that one isn't about actually engaging in homosexual activities.
How is getting sexually aroused about the idea of making gay porn not totally gay?


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09 Apr 2012, 8:53 pm

Arousal is a physiological response. It has nothing to do with attraction even though it can be initiated by it. One can get aroused by the idea of something, but not actually interested into willing to participate it. Kind of a fantasy you may say. Fantasy does not always reflect the reality of the person's feelings, thoughts, and motivation, and more things.



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09 Apr 2012, 9:15 pm

Wow--I'm actually on the side of a major corporation for once. Good for EA; I'd think that a lot of companies would back down, so I'm impressed that they didn't.



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09 Apr 2012, 9:18 pm

Reptillian wrote:
Arousal is a physiological response. It has nothing to do with attraction even though it can be initiated by it. One can get aroused by the idea of something, but not actually interested into willing to participate it. Kind of a fantasy you may say. Fantasy does not always reflect the reality of the person's feelings, thoughts, and motivation, and more things.


If it wasn't something they were interested in they would not be aroused. You can try and reword things and work around the issue all you'd like, but the fact remains they are aroused by gay sex (as shown by the study). If you would really like to refute that, feel free to put together a similar study with the intent to prove or disprove your point.


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09 Apr 2012, 9:24 pm

All you need to know is this and there's plenty of sources where arousal from something is not what they actually want -
http://www.slate.com/blogs/humannature/ ... ousal.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20857185

Not equation rape with gay sex, but it does show that arousal has nothing to do with your actual wants. There's also a sexual philia where you are involved as being the opposite sex having sex with the opposite sex, but it's not something a usual person who fantasizes that would want. I do fantasy of being in the body of a woman having sex with a man as someone who doesn't give a crap about having sex, but it ain't something I want.



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09 Apr 2012, 11:17 pm

Wanting it is entirely beside the point. They are aroused by it. In my (admittedly less than scientific) opinion, that shows that even if you don't consciously want it there is a part of you that does.


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