China to surpass US by 2016?

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I hesitate to say this, but despite all their faults, Johnson and Nixon actually accomplished alot and had the country headed in a fairly good direction. Since then we have had some grandstanders who pleased the crowd de jour.

Your buddy LBJ got us into a 10 year long war (! !! !) in which 60,000 Americans were killed for no discernible benefit or gain for the United States. If you think the younger Bush was reckless, LBJ had half a million pair of boots on the ground in Viet Nam. And he let that abomination Macnamara feed our troops into the meat grinder with no gain to the nation. The men died for no good reason.

ruveyn

ruveyn -- Please, I did say despite their faults. Yes, of course, Vietnam was a national disgrace, disaster, etc. etc.

Lyndon Johnson's spending on a wretched AND expensive war, PLUS his Great Society boondoggle produced a wicked rate of inflation. We had stagflation as a result of Johnson's policies. LBJ started the utter ruination of our economy which has been declining since. The only relief came during the administration of Bill Clinton when thanks to a Republic congress controlled spending. This brief respite was not enough to save us. We got Dubya and his generous redistribution of wealth the the least worthy among us. That plus two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan) put us on the skids.

ruveyn

ruyeyn, you seem to have given this a lot of thought. You will surely appreciate I live in this green and pleasant land of England where we are all wonderfully green, so much so we feel it is our bounden duty to tell the rest of the world to be the same. As you already know we no longer have a steel industry, shipyards, potteries, or Dark Satanic Mills. You know they have mostly gone to Asia. We here in the UK as everywhere else realised the cost of greeness, but in places like China raising a surplus to tackle the problem will only be possible when we pay more for Chinese goods. Obviously the Chinese people want more pay and they can't have that either. It isn't just China anyway. We have cheap River Cobbler fish in our supermarket from Vietnam, but would you really ant to eat this fish farmed on the Mekong Delta choc a block with effluent from industry.

Really? It seems to me more like they're stuck saying the same old things over and over and over and over and over and over and over. I'd have said that a new thought is incapable of getting past the maximum-security prison they keep their brains in. The US seems to be stuck in a rut. No matter what direction you'd like to see it go, if it isn't the (very similar) directions of Democrat corporatism or Republican corporatism you're going to be disappointed.

China will eventually surpass us in health problems after adopting a western style diet. They will probably blame the problems their pollution is causing on McDonalds.

Good opportunity for people that know the Chinese language+nursing+Chinese holistic medicine.

These "our economy is bigger than yours" contests are pretty foolish. Besides, China's per capita GDP ain't surpassing America's anytime soon and it's bound to hit a wall in its accelerating growth eventually.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5GzFCCvbo[/youtube] I found this rather interesting. And yes alot of our American cars are being manufactured in China not only ford but the new Buicks as well. Home Depots in China.

I would not consume any edible or any medicine made in China. The cut corners on safety and quality. They are in the same bag as American industry was during the age of Robber Barons. There was a time when American meat products were suspect. An expose of the hideous conditions of the American slaughter houses was made in the novel -The Jungle-. We managed to live passed that by putting in reasonable health and quality regulations. I will not hold my breath until the Chinese do something similar.

ruveyn

China has already surpassed the US in every way the only thing we have on them is Democracy that's it.

Not true. A billion of the 1.3 billion Chinese live in abject poverty. For the .3 billion who live in the big cities, life is looking up.

By the way, now many Nobel Prizes have gone to Chinese scientists?

ruveyn

True but to me if Barack Obama can win a Nobel Prize then that means anyone could win it for doing nothing just like BO did to get it.

China is now the world's top grocery market. The US has slipped to the No. 2 position.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/gl ... ery-market

The link is a little old but it explains how China has become the world's top grocery market.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trHcmFeO3mY&feature=related[/youtube] China taking the lead in wind energy devolopment. So much for the dirty air eh?btw This vid is about 6 years old

Wind Generation of electricity is intermittent and cannot be used as a major power source for industry. Until a high capacity economical battery is developed for storing wind and photo-voltaic electric energy neither wind nor photo-voltaic can be relied on to power a first rate industrial economy. China relies primarily on her coal fired electrical generating plants. China has large deposits of coal and coal has a high energy density (Joules/cubic Meter).

China has the filthiest air among the leading industrial countries of the world. That is because of the major use of coal to generate electricity.

Until a proper battery is developed neither wind nor photo-voltaic can provide the power needed by a first rate industrial nation. At best it has a niche use in certain areas of the country where wind is steady. Wind generated power can supplement power generated by other means, but it cannot replace it.

ruveyn

Yes, there is terrible poverty in the Chinese countryside, especially the mountain areas. What to do about it is another matter. The land is often not very yeilding, especially in Western China. What would you do, the people are resistant to changing there ways? I understand that, as they would be lost trying to fit in with modern culture.

China really does have problems if it does not use coal. The Three Gorges big dam along with many others solves part of the problem, but at what cost. China has been building many dams, whilst Canada has been trying to do without them. Is the Canadian guy here to tell us about that?

Historically, certainly in the UK, major industrialisation and economic expansion had a cost, with a lot of pain. Nothing changes there. I think it is very sad that the poor people have to pay it, whilst the rich live off their backs, and I am not particularly left wing.