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20 Apr 2012, 9:58 am

The birthers are pretty silly, becoming the President of the United States with false documents? :lol:


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20 Apr 2012, 10:10 am

I don't know if 9/11 was an inside job, but I wouldn't be surprised. There is substantial evidence supporting the truthers.



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20 Apr 2012, 10:14 am

I don't know if Obama was born in America and I don't really care. He's probably a Muslim sympathizer or non religious type anyways. Again, I don't care.



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20 Apr 2012, 10:17 am

bizboy1 wrote:
I don't know if 9/11 was an inside job, but I wouldn't be surprised. There is substantial evidence supporting the truthers.


There was also substantial evidence for WMD in iraq. And he is not a muslim, my gosh, not that religion should effect we elect as president

Obama, Romney, and Santorum all are just as ineligible birth certificate wise.



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20 Apr 2012, 10:22 am

Delphiki wrote:
bizboy1 wrote:
I don't know if 9/11 was an inside job, but I wouldn't be surprised. There is substantial evidence supporting the truthers.


There was also substantial evidence for WMD in iraq. And he is not a muslim, my gosh, not that religion should effect we elect as president

Obama, Romney, and Santorum all are just as ineligible birth certificate wise.


Actually religion does affect which president I elect. I'm not going to vote for a fundamentalist or Muslim.



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20 Apr 2012, 6:43 pm

I'm going to have more fun than holding down the scroll button and yelling "WHEEEEEE!! !" on Page 5 of the LukeCash thread about challenging him and his beliefs.

You see, my position on 9/11 Truthers is not hard to understand: Except for sharp posts, I point and laugh at them otherwise.

Nothing really dies on the Internet, including BS theories like 9/11 Truthers. The only thing I need to do is show sources that say no one cares about them anymore and they will just let them crow about crazy stuff on the Internet.

Here is the most thorough one. Top sentence of site means "I don't care anymore, they're just dumb."

This well-known YouTube page declares it dead in 2007.

It's over. It's finished. Only the ones who cannot be saved survive, as well as some people in the Middle East. Have fun talking about this, guys. Not that I care anymore than doing this :D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNAaDKZ-SuE&feature=related[/youtube]

You post, and then you leave...


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20 Apr 2012, 8:54 pm

bizboy1 wrote:
I don't know if Obama was born in America and I don't really care. He's probably a Muslim sympathizer or non religious type anyways. Again, I don't care.


What in the world makes you think he's a "Muslim sympathizer", whatever that's supposed to mean? If you think that means he supports radical Islamists, then that's BS. If you think that means that he accepts reasonable, caring muslim people.. well, then it's a good thing.



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21 Apr 2012, 7:12 am

My views have remained the same. If there was such a conspiracy, someone must have leaked it. What's often forgotten is that in any conspiracy of that size, they would have needed to involve thousands of people. And what I've noticed is that any secret plan shared in a group of five people will have reached at least fifty before the plan is even put in action. People are no good at keeping secrets.



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21 Apr 2012, 10:23 am

HisDivineMajesty wrote:
My views have remained the same. If there was such a conspiracy, someone must have leaked it. What's often forgotten is that in any conspiracy of that size, they would have needed to involve thousands of people. And what I've noticed is that any secret plan shared in a group of five people will have reached at least fifty before the plan is even put in action. People are no good at keeping secrets.


No one can hold a secret? I've held secrets since I was in Kindergarten, and they aren't all huge bombshells. They don't eat at me. The worst thing is, I don't really have any motivation to keep it a secret. 8O Is there something wrong with me for that?

You make it sound like keeping a secret is an X-men power. Maybe I'm an X-men?


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21 Apr 2012, 11:13 am

snapcap wrote:
HisDivineMajesty wrote:
My views have remained the same. If there was such a conspiracy, someone must have leaked it. What's often forgotten is that in any conspiracy of that size, they would have needed to involve thousands of people. And what I've noticed is that any secret plan shared in a group of five people will have reached at least fifty before the plan is even put in action. People are no good at keeping secrets.


No one can hold a secret? I've held secrets since I was in Kindergarten, and they aren't all huge bombshells. They don't eat at me. The worst thing is, I don't really have any motivation to keep it a secret. 8O Is there something wrong with me for that?

You make it sound like keeping a secret is an X-men power. Maybe I'm an X-men?


Yeah, one guy can keep a secret. I do believe it was Ben Franklin that wrote the defining quote on conspiracies, though - "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."


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21 Apr 2012, 11:15 am

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Yeah, one guy can keep a secret. I do believe it was Ben Franklin that wrote the defining quote on conspiracies, though - "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."


The truth behind the Gulf of Tonkin incident was kept secret for a long time and who knows how much longer it would have lasted if McNamara didn't open his mouth.

I just sunk Franklin's battleship! :D

EDIT: Oh, and it's very likely that there were MANY people that knew that before it was publicly revealed.

EDIT 2: 8)


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21 Apr 2012, 3:59 pm

If you guys believe the official story do you support the war in Afghanistan?



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21 Apr 2012, 4:00 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
If you guys believe the official story do you support the war in Afghanistan?


There is no war in Afghanistan it is all a fraud, Afghanistan does not even exist


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21 Apr 2012, 8:12 pm

Oh forgot another conspiracy group...they are probably not going to show up, but I am going to address them as well since I came out of nowhere against the 9/11 Truthers....

here you go...

The Nizkor Project

Hey, they are looking at the thread right now more than likely thinking "well, WE cannot post on that!" But I'll still remember you, don't worry out that :D

Lots of Truthers follow some kind of thing like that as well, so I get splash damage somewhere for some people.

I just want the forum to know how much I despise Truthers. They're dishonest, feed off the victims, are based on greed (hear the commercials during the radio shows they do), and downright offensive on some of their ideas, like these:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z96MZOZyilo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tp8T2s96pg[/youtube]

It is parasitism, plain and simple. Like they care about the dead :?

Thank God for me being able to speak freely about this. If this was treated like Holocaust denial in some European countries, I would leave, move somewhere else, and do this stuff. God Bless America, let me tell you.


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21 Apr 2012, 8:29 pm

Actually Grimm, if free speech was ever not applicable to 9/11, it would be 9/11 truth that was criminalised, not believing the official account of events.

Even with the mother's testimony I find the whole thing kind of strange. I do think the phone calls were real, but that in itself doesn't prove 9/11 wasn't partially done from the inside.



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21 Apr 2012, 8:30 pm

I admit the 9/11 truth movement really doesn't have the answers either, and there have been a lot of lies and profiteering related to it. But the real disrespect to the dead not to mention the living has been done by the US government and military. I think asking questions about that day is the MOST respectful thing you can do.