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10 Jun 2012, 7:09 am

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Nuclear power is a very political topic, ask Angela Merkel...

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Only because the leftists and the eco-freaks make a political issue out of it. The objective of the left is to impoverish the population and make them dependent on government. The eco-freaks hate the human race and want it gone.

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10 Jun 2012, 10:19 am

ruveyn wrote:
DC wrote:

Nuclear power is a very political topic, ask Angela Merkel...

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Only because the leftists and the eco-freaks make a political issue out of it. The objective of the left is to impoverish the population and make them dependent on government. The eco-freaks hate the human race and want it gone.

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Try to have some understanding of what your opposition actually stands for when you criticise, ruveyn.



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11 Jun 2012, 11:00 am

When will man, the smartest being on the planet, ever learn how or try to harness gravity? It is cheap, plentiful and renwable.



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11 Jun 2012, 1:32 pm

I don't think we've heard the end of Fukushima. That only happened a year ago. I'd rather decentralize the grid as much as possible. The individualist in me likes the idea of taking personal responsibility for something as crucial to modern living as electricity, and the democrat in me likes the idea of people having control of the electrical grid rather than a few corporations. There's a movement to build open source wind turbines and solar panels. Even if there will still have to be power corporate owned power plants to balance out the load, tied grid, domestic systems would help significantly lower the need to build new power plants that run on non-renewable fuels, like uranium, coal, or oil.

http://otherpower.com/

http://opensourceecology.org/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaP3paR32-Y&feature=plcp[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIsHKrP-66s[/youtube]

I'm greatly interested in DIY projects like these. You can build a wind generator from 400 dollars worth of scrap parts, within the course of a few weeks, that's powerful enough to meed the energy needs of a medium sized home in areas where wind is strong enough.



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11 Jun 2012, 1:33 pm

Oldout wrote:
When will man, the smartest being on the planet, ever learn how or try to harness gravity? It is cheap, plentiful and renwable.


I just hope someone figures out how to rebuild the Wardenclyffe Tower



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11 Jun 2012, 5:06 pm

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When will man, the smartest being on the planet, ever learn how or try to harness gravity? It is cheap, plentiful and renwable.

It's called hydropower.



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11 Jun 2012, 6:00 pm

AstroGeek wrote:
Oldout wrote:
When will man, the smartest being on the planet, ever learn how or try to harness gravity? It is cheap, plentiful and renwable.

It's called hydropower.


Also I think geo thermal takes advantage of the heat created by the compression of gravity in the earth's mantle. If we could somehow develope a way to drill through the earth's crust and tap in to this heat energy I think we'd be pretty set for our energy needs.



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11 Jun 2012, 6:37 pm

Rakshasa72 wrote:
AstroGeek wrote:
Oldout wrote:
When will man, the smartest being on the planet, ever learn how or try to harness gravity? It is cheap, plentiful and renwable.

It's called hydropower.


Also I think geo thermal takes advantage of the heat created by the compression of gravity in the earth's mantle. If we could somehow develope a way to drill through the earth's crust and tap in to this heat energy I think we'd be pretty set for our energy needs.

Most of the heat in the Earth's core comes from radioactive decay. Some of it is residual heat from the formation of the Earth (which was extracted, for lack of a better word, from the gravitational potential of the things forming the Earth), but I'm pretty sure that radioactive decay is the dominant heat source.



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11 Jun 2012, 6:39 pm

AstroGeek wrote:
Oldout wrote:
When will man, the smartest being on the planet, ever learn how or try to harness gravity? It is cheap, plentiful and renwable.

It's called hydropower.


It is economical only at high head water drops which are, alas, very few and far between.

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11 Jun 2012, 6:41 pm

Nuclear Energy is also cheap.



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11 Jun 2012, 6:42 pm

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Nuclear Energy is also cheap.


Not if you factor in the cost of handling the waste safely.

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11 Jun 2012, 6:45 pm

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Nuclear Energy is also cheap.


Not if you factor in the cost of handling the waste safely.

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True but it is still pretty cheap.



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11 Jun 2012, 6:46 pm

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ruveyn wrote:
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Nuclear Energy is also cheap.


Not if you factor in the cost of handling the waste safely.

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True but it is still pretty cheap.


No. It is not. Unfortunately oil and natural gas are cheaper which is why were are burning them.

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11 Jun 2012, 6:51 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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ruveyn wrote:
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Nuclear Energy is also cheap.


Not if you factor in the cost of handling the waste safely.

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True but it is still pretty cheap.


No. It is not. Unfortunately oil and natural gas are cheaper which is why were are burning them.

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Take away the fact of the cost of handeling nuclear power it is sorta cheap. Plus oil will not always be here finding other natural gases will be hard when their is no more oil.



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11 Jun 2012, 6:52 pm

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Take away the fact of the cost of handeling nuclear power it is sorta cheap. Plus oil will not always be here finding other natural gases will be hard when their is no more oil.


When oil gets and gas get scarce we will use coal. The cheapest fuel always wins.

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11 Jun 2012, 6:58 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Joker wrote:

Take away the fact of the cost of handeling nuclear power it is sorta cheap. Plus oil will not always be here finding other natural gases will be hard when their is no more oil.


When oil gets and gas get scarce we will use coal. The cheapest fuel always wins.

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Ah Caol that we can use but the environmental damage that caol causes is not good for the planet. Then again we already have that problem with gas and oil.