How bad is the American media?

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Well, now, think about it...the Democrat track record on war since 'Nam has been pretty pathetic. Democrat foreign policy since Kennedy has been shaky at best, wartime objectives have been unclear and chaotic. Wars initiated under Republican policies have had clear, stated objectives and they used all means necessary to achieve goals in a short period of time.

War by its nature is as politically incorrect as you can get, meaning people are going to be pissed off at you and will count every single rule of engagement that you break. You can't try to make people happy and hope to expect to actually win. The UN voted 108 to 9 a resolution opposing US intervention in Grenada. Reagan's response was "it didn't upset my breakfast at all." The US achieved a decisive military victory within a matter of weeks.

Dessert Storm achieved its goals in Kuwait in a fairly short amount of time.

Same with the later Gulf War under Dubya.

Clinton came under pressure from scandal at home. What does he do? Bomb Kosovo. And don't forget that wildly successful Battle of Mogadishu a few years earlier.

Obama promises "no boots on the ground" in Libya. It's all political. Turns out there ARE boots on the ground to meet NATO obligations. It's a broken promise, even though Obama has every opportunity to make Libya our ally by taking a stronger effort in intervention. Sure, Obama got our troops out of Iraq...but then what happened? Increased violence in the region with no troops to keep the peace. What about Afghanistan? We got troops running wild posing with dead bodies. What about the Secret Service partying hard in Mexico? Oh, we've been doing that for years, it turns out, but all of a sudden we get sloppy when Obama takes office? Obama's approval ratings are in the toilet. So what does he do? He catches bin Laden. Convenient, much?

Republicans do a little something different when they wage war. They actually WIN. And that's the difference between Democrats now and Kennedy. That guy had BALLS (Cuban Missile Crisis). Back then Vietnam was just some Asian country nobody had ever heard of until Johnson screwed it up. Nixon TRIED to do the right thing, but it was so screwed up that there was little to do but get the US out and just hand Vietnam over to the north. Republicans have been consistent on foreign policy ever since.

If you actually believe all of that what could I possibly say in return? That's a parallel reality from mine. It's just completely one sided partisan kool-aid. That's loving your party like you love mommy.

Same here, though it's only been a few years since we unsubscribed to TV (2009 if memory serves, when everything went digital - our TV was old and we didn't want to spend money to convert it or get a new one, and then our satellite dish controller went out). I agree with everything the OP said. It bothers me immensely that Obama made her Secretary of State. Not the right person at all, IMO.

Not only is mainstream media a problem, Fox seems to be the baddest apple in the barrel, and it annoys (and even scares me) no end that a lot of my relatives take it seriously.

Where is it written that people must get their news from T.V.?

What ever happened to print?

ruveyn

Guess you haven't been watching Fox News, they've been continually following Fast & Furious for months. In fact they have been the only News Agency on TV that has been continually following Fast & Furious, the others have just been trying to villify Republicans.

A lot of folks on this forum don't watch Fox News. Something to do with their repeated ethics violations, clear and unapologetic bias and slew of idiotic newscasters.

What ethics violations, in case you didn't notice those violations were centered in another company in the UK that happened to be owned by the same parent company that owns Fox News. Further, while there is an investigation now in the US, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it is political in nature, given this administration's DoJ is the most corrupt DoJ in my lifetime.

Top that off, Fox News is honest about when they are giving their opinions, which is a heck of a lot better than CNN and MSNBC that report their opinions as though they were facts.

The reason most people here don't watch Fox News has more to do with the fact Fox News threatens their liberal world view, putting it mildly and they don't want to face the fact that a lot of what they believed was propaganda.

The reason most people here do not watch Fox News is because they are not gullible partisan cretins

Well I guess that doesn't work very well cause many people here are gullable partisan cretins (and yeah Vigilans you're one of those cretins).

Considering I've known about Fast & Furious for over a year, while many of you guys are only just now finding out about it, and got news for you pal, Fast & Furious is just the tip of the iceberg...

you are such a tool

Why can't you simple people come up with anything better than "I know you are, but what am I?!"

I was just stating my honest opinion of you, not juvenile pettiness.

Quite frankly, I honestly do think of you and quite a few other people here as terribly ill-informed and your partisanship is a result of that. In fact if you look at this logically, my statement directed towards you would have more of a rational basis than what you accused me.

1. There are more Liberals employed at Fox News than CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. combined have Conservatives...
2. In case you hadn't noticed these last 4 years, the Left Wing media has been kissing Obama's feet every chance they got. In fact they have been actively trying to cover up anything negative about Obama.
3. The Obama administration and the left wing media have been deliberately demonizing average Americans, something that is scarily familiar from a historian's standpoint.
4. Mediamatters' partisan war on Fox News despite the fact what Mediamatters is doing is illegal because they have tax-exempt status.
5. MSNBC's recent attempt to demonize the fact Ann Romney rides horses as a treatment for MS.

That's just to name a few things, thing is if you were standing in front of me, I'd say it to your face.

I've been called racist, bigot, mocked, etc. by people here, I don't run around mocking you guys on a regular basis. I've seen a few "Conservatives" (and I use the term loosely because I don't consider Mittbots to be conservative) act in an intolerant manner, but not to the level I've seen some people here behave on a routine basis.

No, you did exactly as I described. What you always tend to do.



I'm not surprised you think that, but that just makes it all the more hilarious when you reference Fox News and other partisan douchebags associated with that network then lament about partisanship and credibility in the liberal media. Your politics are not politics, they are little better than Perez Hilton. You are basically swapping gossip stories about your favorite celebs, not actually engaging in real political discussion. When you can do that, get back to me. Until then, keep making me laugh



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If you were standing in front of me, I would slap your face with cold cuts and call you a pretty little princess



I don't consider you to be a conservative either, you are just an entertainment industry fanboy with illusions of politic

Yeah Fox News is chomping at the bit for things on Fast and Furious they can dredge up. At least on some show like Special Report and maybe the O'Reilly Factor.

However, looking at FOX News across a lot of daytime and it's like a news wasteland. After a while it's like Shepard Smith would rather play the video of the bear falling on the trampoline again. Or trudge through the Sandusky scandal.

I will say one exception to this might be Neil Cavuto. He is more of a business guy who wants to at least report on the economy and the business world or how both of those are affected by politics and current events.

@Inuyasha: Why do you always assume that anyone who criticises the Republicans is always a hyper-partisan Democrat? Especially for people from other countries like Vigilans and myself? Vigilans has made the comment that he'd vote NDP in Canada (the most left-wing of our mainstream parties) and I'm a Green (a party slightly to the right of the NDP, although I personally am way to the left of both of them). So neither of use would be particularly fond of the Democrats except as the lesser of two evils.

Inuyasha wouldn't have much to argue with if he didn't build strawmen. Not Republican = Evil Democrat Liberal Atheist Muslim Free-thinking Secular Jewish Union organizers