So whats so great about been micro chipped?

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28 Jun 2012, 11:13 am

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this would be good for criminals. just to keep them from running away before their court date and only if they committed a major crime. it would also be good for some elderly as people have said. thats all i would want to see it used for i hate the idea.


Because the good old justice system would totally stop at people who committed major crimes........they would never force it upon non-violent drug offenders or anything.


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28 Jun 2012, 11:32 am

I actually agree that the pedophile threat is overstated. However, I live very close to where a child was abducted and later found dead. The murderer has not been caught, so I'm pretty sure there's one near me.



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28 Jun 2012, 11:41 am

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I'm fine with parents (and only parents) being allowed to chip their kids. However, they must sign a legal agreement that they will pay for the chip to be removed if the child requests it upon reaching maturity.


Because I am sure the system really wants to make sure the chips are removed when the kids grow up and realize maybe they don't want people they don't trust to know where they are 24/7. Of course arguments like that will be used....'do it for the safety.' but do you want safety at the cost of your rights?
If these are anything like the chips used in pets, they cannot be removed. That's my understanding anyway. They're difficult to locate and pinpoint for removal, and it requires surgery.

There is no way in hell I would agree with chipping any human. If someone with dementia keeps getting lost, they're not being supervised well enough. Same with pets, for that matter. I don't even get my pets chipped.



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28 Jun 2012, 11:50 am

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They're difficult to locate and pinpoint for removal


Nah, the ones in animals can often be felt, just under the skin between the shoulderblades. If a chip does migrate, a simple swipe of a chip reader will locate it. At worst, an x-ray might be required in order to pinpoint the exact location and allow for the smallest possible removal incision. Usually microchips stay right where they were injected, however.



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28 Jun 2012, 11:50 am

Im considering on getting an RFID chip in my hand im not sue yet on that one, if i do it will be for an extra layer of security for my computer, not the sole security because in all honesty RFID is crap for security, and a Neodymium Magnet implant in my left ring finger, im really excited about that implant because it will allow me to FEEL Electromagnetic waves, essentially giving me a sixth sense. Im getting the Neodymium Magnet implant hopefully this fall.


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28 Jun 2012, 11:51 am

SpiritBlooms wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
YippySkippy wrote:
I'm fine with parents (and only parents) being allowed to chip their kids. However, they must sign a legal agreement that they will pay for the chip to be removed if the child requests it upon reaching maturity.


Because I am sure the system really wants to make sure the chips are removed when the kids grow up and realize maybe they don't want people they don't trust to know where they are 24/7. Of course arguments like that will be used....'do it for the safety.' but do you want safety at the cost of your rights?
If these are anything like the chips used in pets, they cannot be removed. That's my understanding anyway. They're difficult to locate and pinpoint for removal, and it requires surgery.

There is no way in hell I would agree with chipping any human. If someone with dementia keeps getting lost, they're not being supervised well enough. Same with pets, for that matter. I don't even get my pets chipped.


Microchips are only semi-permanent you remove almost the same way you put them in.


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28 Jun 2012, 12:04 pm

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Neodymium Magnet implant in my left ring finger, im really excited about that implant because it will allow me to FEEL Electromagnetic waves, essentially giving me a sixth sense.


Fascinating. What is the advantage to feeling electromagnetic waves? Can it be dangerous in certain situations? Could you also carry a device that emits waves, allowing you to navigate in the dark, for example?



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28 Jun 2012, 1:51 pm

a magicians magnetic ring will give you teh same sense,

one can feel the magnetic field of a kettle when it switches on from several feet away, feels like one is getting electrocuted if one grabs the power cord with the magnet ring.

as for risks, no idea.


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28 Jun 2012, 4:28 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
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Neodymium Magnet implant in my left ring finger, im really excited about that implant because it will allow me to FEEL Electromagnetic waves, essentially giving me a sixth sense.


Fascinating. What is the advantage to feeling electromagnetic waves? Can it be dangerous in certain situations? Could you also carry a device that emits waves, allowing you to navigate in the dark, for example?


It doesnt really have a practical purpose unless you are in the elecrical engineering field, im getting it more for the curiosity and feeling new senses than anything. It uses electromagnetic waves(Magnetic Vision they call it) kind of like sonar. It can be dangerous, you can get small pieces of metal magnetized to your finger but if you do that for longer than 20 minutes the skin in between the magnet and the metal will die and your body will reject the implant, other than that its very safe, and it will not set off metal detectors or demagnetize credit cards so you dont need to worry about that.


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28 Jun 2012, 6:25 pm

I had my dog chipped by the vet as a precautionary measure in addition to dog tags since we would be doing some off-leash hiking in the mountains.
Those chips do migrate under the skin.

It stands to reason that if chipping pets is a good idea some bonehead would suggest chipping people.
Give it time and it will be compulsory for your own safety.
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