Why is it okay for some vegetarians to eat fish?

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03 Aug 2012, 12:53 pm

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except at restaurants, where I often don't have a choice
8O wtf? You always have choice. Ignore poor restaurants for example :wink: But I think if you tell them "this seems quite nice, but without meat/fish and add more cabbage please" they will do it. Try it :)

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03 Aug 2012, 1:08 pm

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except at restaurants, where I often don't have a choice
8O wtf? You always have choice. Ignore poor restaurants for example :wink: But I think if you tell them "this seems quite nice, but without meat/fish and add more cabbage please" they will do it. Try it :)


that seems like a good way to overpay for food.
But my cheapskate nature makes me cook more than eat out.
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03 Aug 2012, 1:13 pm

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Mmm. Fish.



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03 Aug 2012, 1:21 pm

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Mmm. Fish.


I am afraid I will be eating with Tequila.
but for The_Walrus
some falafel

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I am afraid I will be eating with Tequila.


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03 Aug 2012, 1:23 pm

Felafel and houmous? Love that stuff, too. Mmm. :D



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03 Aug 2012, 1:34 pm

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Felafel and houmous? Love that stuff, too. Mmm. :D



That is the Joy of being a omnivore you can eat all the good veg and meat to boot.


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03 Aug 2012, 1:35 pm

A lot of people say they are vegetarian, when they eat fish. They have it wrong. They are not vegetarian. I had an argument with my sister in law, who told me her friend was vegetarian and ate fish. I told her she wasn't vegetarian, she just said she was. She couldn't get my point and said that her friend had to eat fish for the oil. Could I get it through to her that this didn't negate the fact that she wasn't vegetarian - No.

I eat a predominantly vegetarian diet, but also eat the occasional fish. I don't call myself vegetarian, simply because I'm not. My husband is vegeterian and I was too, for 10 years, so I'm all too aware of the difference. When I go out for a meal with my parents, they often tell the waiting staff that my husband, daughter and I are vegetarian. I don't know why, because there's never a problem getting a veggie dish here anyway. Then I go on to order fish (dinners at home are always vegetarian, so I like a change). Therefore, I often feel obliged to explain to the waiter that my parents have got it wrong again, not that it matters to them. It's most annoying.


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03 Aug 2012, 1:41 pm

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
A lot of people say they are vegetarian, when they eat fish. They have it wrong. They are not vegetarian. I had an argument with my sister in law, who told me her friend was vegetarian and ate fish. I told her she wasn't vegetarian, she just said she was. She couldn't get my point and said that her friend had to eat fish for the oil. Could I get it through to her that this didn't negate the fact that she wasn't vegetarian - No.


Tell her in future that the correct term is "pescetarian". Then see how she likes them apples.



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03 Aug 2012, 1:47 pm

Tequila wrote:
Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
A lot of people say they are vegetarian, when they eat fish. They have it wrong. They are not vegetarian. I had an argument with my sister in law, who told me her friend was vegetarian and ate fish. I told her she wasn't vegetarian, she just said she was. She couldn't get my point and said that her friend had to eat fish for the oil. Could I get it through to her that this didn't negate the fact that she wasn't vegetarian - No.


Tell her in future that the correct term is "pescetarian". Then see how she likes them apples.
I'm sorry to say that concept is beyond her brain power.


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03 Aug 2012, 2:40 pm

Why is it okay?

Because all people get to decide for themselves what they will eat. We seem too hung up on labels, trying to define our food choices within rigid frameworks of nomenclature.


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03 Aug 2012, 4:17 pm

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I eat fish because my parents force me to. When I move out, I will stop (except at restaurants, where I often don't have a choice).


You have a choice in virtually any restaurant... Even if you build up something that is not on the menu. I don't know this from a vegetarian perspective, but from a weight loss perspective. If nothing else, order different appetizers (although they are usually high fat) or side dishes of vegetables to make your own meal. Or modify a meal they offer.

The only issue with modifying a meal is they will probably charge for the normal meal even if you replace the more expensive meat/fish with the cheaper veggies.

This is easier with age now that I am not concerned as much about what the restaurant staff thinks.



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03 Aug 2012, 4:32 pm

What I always find curious is the vegetarians who hunt for ways to make vegetables/soy/??? be as close to meat as possible, and from everything I have tried, it is never even close.

I like vegetables, I just don't like vegetables that pretend to be meat.



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03 Aug 2012, 7:01 pm

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I eat fish because my parents force me to. When I move out, I will stop (except at restaurants, where I often don't have a choice).


You have a choice in virtually any restaurant... Even if you build up something that is not on the menu. I don't know this from a vegetarian perspective, but from a weight loss perspective. If nothing else, order different appetizers (although they are usually high fat) or side dishes of vegetables to make your own meal. Or modify a meal they offer.

The only issue with modifying a meal is they will probably charge for the normal meal even if you replace the more expensive meat/fish with the cheaper veggies.

This is easier with age now that I am not concerned as much about what the restaurant staff thinks.

I don't eat out alone, I eat with my parents (and if we are at a restaurant that isn't a pizzeria, we'll either be with my grandparents too, or abroad). They have had to put up with a lot of crap from me about food in the past (there is very little I will eat), and it is too much stress for both parties if I say "I'd like the scampi and chips, but instead of scampi, give me carrots". They'd freak out about me not having enough protein.



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03 Aug 2012, 7:53 pm

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The statement "eating a fruit kills the fruit" doesnt make any sense. Eating a fruit doesnt kill anything. The plant that produced the fruit WANTS you to eat it so the plant can disperse it genes and reproduce by having its seeds pass through your gut ( or having you throw away the apple core on the ground). Thats the whole reason fruit evolved- so plants can exploit us animals to propagate. If you didnt eat the fruit it would just rot on the ground, or it would sprout at the foot of the parent tree and compete with its parent and die.


The point is we do not propagate anything. Other animals do, but we eat the fruit and put the core (seed) in the trash bin. We are killing the fruit. We are completely wasting its purpose of producing new life.



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03 Aug 2012, 10:50 pm

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