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What Style of Religious Person Are You?
Monotheist 22%  22%  [ 11 ]
Polytheist 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
Pantheist 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
Agnostic 14%  14%  [ 7 ]
Atheist 41%  41%  [ 21 ]
Other 10%  10%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 51

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29 Sep 2012, 7:50 pm

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Style of religious person? I'm not a religious person.

Same. Some of those options are not religious styles, one in particular is a lack thereof.


Whatever. Being a terminology Nazi and splitting hairs isn't requited every time you indicate that you're an Atheist.



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29 Sep 2012, 8:01 pm

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Whatever. Being a terminology Nazi and splitting hairs isn't requited every time you indicate that you're an Atheist.


I don't want to be on your back or anything, but I would say that it is requtied/required (? :P Sorry) because if you don't do that you're stuck as a lesser individual in a religious world. Which is not the right way to see things. Terminology today is not neutral, but biased, and discriminating against "atheists".

I'm sorry if that was offensive, I'm really not trying to be.



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29 Sep 2012, 8:07 pm

I guess it torqued me a bit because I kind of assumed that anyone here would know that Atheism isn't actually religious. I was just trying to provide an option for people who didn't feel particularly religious to express that. I apologize for the rude reaction.

I realize that most of the entries aren't exactly perfect and scientific but I think the terms can be used to loosely describe most of the world's major and many of the minor religions.



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30 Sep 2012, 5:08 am

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I guess it torqued me a bit because I kind of assumed that anyone here would know that Atheism isn't actually religious. I was just trying to provide an option for people who didn't feel particularly religious to express that. I apologize for the rude reaction.

I realize that most of the entries aren't exactly perfect and scientific but I think the terms can be used to loosely describe most of the world's major and many of the minor religions.


Atheism is a belief regarding a deity, or multiple deities, specifically in the lack of their existence. It cannot be scientifically proven, yet adherents almost universally insist that it is certain to be true. It frequently influences the way people view others, for example, the common disdain for, condescension to, and criticism of the intelligence of the majority of people who are not atheists. Atheism encourages the elimination of other beliefs, often with the justification that other beliefs contribute to ignorance, violence, and intolerance, and atheists usually become agitated when their own beliefs are misinterpreted or misrepresented.

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30 Sep 2012, 5:47 am

Vulture wrote:
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Style of religious person? I'm not a religious person.

Same. Some of those options are not religious styles, one in particular is a lack thereof.


Whatever. Being a terminology Nazi and splitting hairs isn't requited every time you indicate that you're an Atheist.

I was really just making a comment. I did vote in the poll :)



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30 Sep 2012, 6:02 am

Cei wrote:
Vulture wrote:
I guess it torqued me a bit because I kind of assumed that anyone here would know that Atheism isn't actually religious. I was just trying to provide an option for people who didn't feel particularly religious to express that. I apologize for the rude reaction.

I realize that most of the entries aren't exactly perfect and scientific but I think the terms can be used to loosely describe most of the world's major and many of the minor religions.


Atheism is a belief regarding a deity, or multiple deities, specifically in the lack of their existence. It cannot be scientifically proven, yet adherents almost universally insist that it is certain to be true. It frequently influences the way people view others, for example, the common disdain for, condescension to, and criticism of the intelligence of the majority of people who are not atheists. Atheism encourages the elimination of other beliefs, often with the justification that other beliefs contribute to ignorance, violence, and intolerance, and atheists usually become agitated when their own beliefs are misinterpreted or misrepresented.

:P


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Atheism is a belief regarding a deity, or multiple deities, specifically in the lack of their existence.


That's exactly why I don't want to be called an atheist. I don't believe in anything. That is the point. Belief and faith is something I don't want, I see it as irrational.

I thought it could be scientifically proven?

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the intelligence of the majority of people


I can't ever let myself say that the majority of people are intelligent. They are most certainly stupid, because man does not need to be intelligent. Therefore it is only right to be critical of the majority. There are many other examples of this.

I don't believe in anything. I only know, by my own personal thought, independent of everything else around me. I've put these individualistic sides of myself to the extreme so that I could figure out for real if there exists something close to the idea of a god or not, and many lines of thought concluded otherwise.



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30 Sep 2012, 6:07 am

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I thought it could be scientifically proven?


How?



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30 Sep 2012, 6:26 am

By the laws of science implying that the existence of a god is not testable therefore not valid and need to be eliminated
By the laws of science implying that there is forces in nature and creation that make the existence of a god superfluous
By the laws of science implying that solid evidence and rational lines of thought is necessary for truth, and that religious views do not contain these properties

But tbh I don't know. I just thought there was proof in some areas of science, I don't know anything specific, maybe someone else does.



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02 Oct 2012, 7:08 pm

I am a monotheist.


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02 Oct 2012, 8:00 pm

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If you believe that Jesus was a man, even as you and I are, then you believe God took a sh** daily.

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I'm an agnostic, but I don't understand this Judeo-Islamic disgust at the idea of God having a human body. Maybe it reveals your attitude to the human body? (not that Catholics are any better in this regard).


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02 Oct 2012, 8:18 pm

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If you believe that Jesus was a man, even as you and I are, then you believe God took a sh** daily.

ruveyn


I'm an agnostic, but I don't understand this Judeo-Islamic disgust at the idea of God having a human body. Maybe it reveals your attitude to the human body? (not that Catholics are any better in this regard).


It doesn't make any sense to claim that a divine power created all thins but then has hangups about the basic functions of its creations.



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04 Oct 2012, 3:48 am

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If you believe that Jesus was a man, even as you and I are, then you believe God took a sh** daily.

ruveyn


I'm an agnostic, but I don't understand this Judeo-Islamic disgust at the idea of God having a human body. Maybe it reveals your attitude to the human body? (not that Catholics are any better in this regard).


Hey, I freely admit to being disgusted by the human body. You think s*** isn't gross?

Plus, if God created time itself, why would He be affected by it, for example? Stuff like that kinda rules out the Trinity, IMO.



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04 Oct 2012, 7:24 pm

But then to say that God could not exist in multiple forms at the same time, or to say that he could not become human is for whatever reason he desired to be, would be to say that God is not omnipotent.

Just say'n.



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08 Oct 2012, 1:12 pm

I was baptized and raised in the Anglican Church, but I have not gone to church in about 3 years; I have completely stopped believing in the Trinity as I believe it's an idolatrous belief- similar to what ruveyn said...a few years from now I will hopefullystart the Jewish conversion process.


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08 Oct 2012, 1:51 pm

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I was baptized and raised in the Anglican Church, but I have not gone to church in about 3 years; I have completely stopped believing in the Trinity as I believe it's an idolatrous belief- similar to what ruveyn said...a few years from now I will hopefullystart the Jewish conversion process.


Do yourself a favor and just practice the seven Noah laws. You will be in God's good graces if you do so and your life will be much simpler.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahide_laws

If you are a half way decent person you will be 5/6 of the way to keeping the Noah laws.

If I were a humanoid alien who just came to earth and wanted to take up one of the covenants that the Earth folk have, then I would choose the Noah laws without hesitation. However I was born Jewish and brought up that way so I am inclined to keep the commandments which contain the Noah laws as a subset. You will notice the keeping the Sabbath is not required by the Noah laws. Already that makes things simpler.

ruveyn



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08 Oct 2012, 2:00 pm

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KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
I was baptized and raised in the Anglican Church, but I have not gone to church in about 3 years; I have completely stopped believing in the Trinity as I believe it's an idolatrous belief- similar to what ruveyn said...a few years from now I will hopefullystart the Jewish conversion process.


Do yourself a favor and just practice the seven Noah laws. You will be in God's good graces if you do so and your life will be much simpler.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahide_laws

If you are a half way decent person you will be 5/6 of the way to keeping the Noah laws.

If I were a humanoid alien who just came to earth and wanted to take up one of the covenants that the Earth folk have, then I would choose the Noah laws without hesitation. However I was born Jewish and brought up that way so I am inclined to keep the commandments which contain the Noah laws as a subset. You will notice the keeping the Sabbath is not required by the Noah laws. Already that makes things simpler.

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Being a Noahide is not at all spirtually fulfilling; it has actually been the source my depression, and it's like a spiritual limbo...plus, there is no guarantee whatsoever that a Noahide will even merit a place in the world to come.- This lifestyle may seem easier and it may seem more convenient but to me it does not feel nice at all; I feel like an irrelevant human being that lacks any purpose in this world...I don't want to subject myself for this torment for the rest of my life.


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