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06 Nov 2012, 9:18 pm

The Israelis don't have to be in Israel. They could easily go to Europe or America if they wanted to ... but they choose to stay in Palestine despite that problems that causes.


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06 Nov 2012, 9:26 pm

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The Israelis don't have to be in Israel. They could easily go to Europe or America if they wanted to ... but they choose to stay in Palestine despite that problems that causes.


I have often said that. The British became responsible for the Jews when they promised them a homeland. I think they should evacuate part of the UK and have that earmarked as their promised land.

They would be safer than in the middle east anyway.



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06 Nov 2012, 9:30 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
The Israelis don't have to be in Israel. They could easily go to Europe or America if they wanted to ... but they choose to stay in Palestine despite that problems that causes.


My point exactly, if they had chosen part of Alaska instead, they could've had better land and less hostile neighbors.



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06 Nov 2012, 9:34 pm

haven't the jews more or less colonised New York anyway?



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06 Nov 2012, 10:04 pm

Meet the REAL Jews.
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http://www.nkusa.org/

If the Palestinians get their land back then I am going to celebrate by hanging out with the Neturei Karta and we will celebrate Chhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhanukkah.


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06 Nov 2012, 10:05 pm

I think everyone except for the Mormons has colonized New York.



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06 Nov 2012, 11:04 pm

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I doubt Iran will use a nuclear weapon.

I think what they will do is use the threat of a nuclear weapon in a very bad way.


They don't need to. The threat is them having the tech to do it and the capability to supply it to others.

The Mutually Assured Destruction policy of the cold war works even now to prevent nations from using their nukes. Whoever uses them gets obliterated in return. However, when said weapons are supplied to terrorrist cells which make the tracking of where they got it extremely hard... M.A.D. cannot be applied.

Right now you can bet that the US and other major nuclear powers have told the minor nuclear powers that ANY underhanded nuclear attack will result in the obliteration of them all regardless of who did and did not do it.

Iran's entry into the nuclear sphere puts nuclear weapons within range of Europe. That is the reason why they cannot be allowed to have them. Israel's security is as big a smokescreen for Europe's security as the Palestinian's nationhood is a smokescreen for the muslim nation's efforts to keep assaulting Israel's existence.

Pakistan does not have the missile tech to reach Europe. If the launch they will hit Turkey and the radiation gets swept back to the middle east by the Mediterranean trade winds. No other muslim nation near Europe has the tech to reach Europe..and Turkey is as pacified as it can be plus it can be quickly invaded by land (from Europe) if it looks like they're on the path to nukes.


Iran is seeking to become the next North Korea. Saber Rattling nonsense...except this time they have the soviets within reach as well...and that will very likely not work well for them. If anything, the russians are far more likely to use military force vs. Iran than the rest of the West is.



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07 Nov 2012, 2:28 pm

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He's right though. The resident Israeli supporters will deny it and lie through their teeth about the lands being unoccupied but the Palestinians were basically frogmarched off their ancestral lands by armed zionist bullies and forced out into the rocky unarable extremeties like the Gaza strip.

Surprised that an Irish nationalist sympathiser like yourself would take a sympathetic tone with Israel, especially considering that the move to arm the zionists and dispose of the Palestinian occupants was basically a British false flag project. Its of no coincidence the IRA and PLO had a long history of shared struggle.

The star of david flag can now be seen in protestant areas of Northern Ireland, displayed by disgusting bigots in the same tradition of Lenny Murphy and Gusty Spence.


I copied this and pasted it in steam to one of my Pals in the IDf. Here was his response.

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Garoth Bloodbeard: I swear.
Garoth Bloodbeard: you know, lemme come on back to Ireland all in uniform.
Garoth Bloodbeard: Holding my TAR-21 and all.
Garoth Bloodbeard: Let them say it to my face when I'm combat able ;3
Garoth Bloodbeard: It's funny how people who were never here decied that they know everything based on the internet.
Garoth Bloodbeard: The head of the Palestinian Union in Israel stated not a week ago that the rest are starting to see that they can live here just like any Jew, and that they are part of this nation like everyone, that no one is threatening them or anything.


And for the record, My pals in the IDf are all Irish Nationalists too that support the Ideal of a United Ireland.


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07 Nov 2012, 2:43 pm

I suspect that, aside from our governments, Americans have more in common with Iranians than pretty much any other Muslim country except Turkey. It's a pity about the governments, though.

As for a bomb: American and Israeli saber-rattling is the single most effective thing that we can do to drive Iran towards nuclear weaponization.

As far as attacking Iran: Romney was pushing that idea more than Obama. I think that Obama will work far harder than Romney would have to avoid that outcome.



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07 Nov 2012, 2:48 pm

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As far as attacking Iran: Romney was pushing that idea more than Obama. I think that Obama will work far harder than Romney would have to avoid that outcome.

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07 Nov 2012, 4:00 pm

Obama doesn't have to worry about reelection anymore and if we take his first term as any indication of if he'll keep his campaign promises, we'll have boots in Tehran by next Christmas.



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07 Nov 2012, 4:50 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/OrkDh#0

America, please don't attack Iran.

Peace


Not one picture of a bat-sh*t crazy Shi'ite foaming at the mouth.

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07 Nov 2012, 5:13 pm

Yes, thats whats sad about this whole thing. Its their fruitcake gov. that holds this great and beautiful nation back. Iran could've been a jewel of a nation...with more influence and a stronger economy than Turkey even.



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07 Nov 2012, 5:17 pm

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And for the record, My pals in the IDf are all Irish Nationalists too that support the Ideal of a United Ireland.


Any true Irish republican worth his salt would have no association with the IDF or their British sponsors.



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07 Nov 2012, 5:30 pm

I went to school with a girl from Iran,she was so polite and nice and drop dead gorgeous!Her brother was one of the best looking men I have ever seen,all the girls begged B.,PLEASE introduce us to your brother!! I have a book by Arthur Upham Pope on Persian architecture,it was published by The Farah Pahlavi Cultural Foundation and Soroush Press.The Mosques are beautiful,I hope they don't get destroyed in some senseless conflict.I wish I could see them in real life.And some of the most fragrant roses are from there.



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07 Nov 2012, 5:53 pm

thomas81 wrote:
IrishTusk wrote:

And for the record, My pals in the IDf are all Irish Nationalists too that support the Ideal of a United Ireland.


Any true Irish republican worth his salt would have no association with the IDF or their British sponsors.


When it comes down to it mate they're there to stay, and the surrounding countrys want to eradicate them. That's the difference between there and N.I, If we got the United Ireland we wanted we wouldn't have touched the Prodistants, They'd be accepted albet reluctantly.

What do you think would happen to the Jews if they were to be taken over by Palistine. Honestly? I don't know, but I'll Garentee it'll be worse than the Prods feared from us.

In the end of the day they aren't going any where, unless they're forced at gun point, and I've the upmost respect for any solider fighting for their country, Doesn't matter if they are IDF or 2nd Rifles.

And you only have to look at us to see that fighting will only get you so far. Killing Prison guards won't get us a United Ireland, and interogating Colin Duffy won't bring down the CIA and Craigavon. The same goes for Isreali and Palsitine. They've fought for so long they've reached the stalemate we did.
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And as a off topic note. I'd have so much more respect for Iran if they just called themselves Persia officaly.


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