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07 Nov 2012, 1:59 am

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What was it about the living candidates that made the voters decide that the dead candidates were better choices?


Weekend at Bernies.


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07 Nov 2012, 3:02 am

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At least half the people who vote don't think before, during, or after voting. Case in point, today my town elected a dead man to the county commission. No sh*t.

<This article right here> has it.

Yep. A dead guy won here. It's even worse because it's a small town so most of the people who voted for him knew he was dead.

missouri elected a dead senator not long ago.


If you're referring to the 2000 Missouri Senate race between John Ashcroft and the late Mel Carnahan ... I understand completely why the dead candidate won.


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07 Nov 2012, 11:08 am

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The percentage that voted for Mr. Romney were likely to vote for him anyway, so if he had alienated only 33% of the population instead of 47%, he'd be 14% ahead in the popular vote, and I'd be listening to him making his acceptance speech right now instead of Mr. Obama.

I really think that one gaffe had the most to do with putting Mr. Romney behind the proverbial 8-ball.

Too bad ... Mr. Ryan might have made a good V.P.


nope. what made romney lose was
1- even larger turnout of blacks and other minorities (does it sound racist? yes. is it true? yes)
2- hardcore republicans holding him down.
3- sounding like a broken record

Why do I point those out? Because of the things all the swing states had in common.


It's not just minorities. He alienated younger conservatives who stayed home or voted libertarian instead of voting for another chicken-hawk war monger. After Iraq my generation doesn't trust the Republican party anymore.



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07 Nov 2012, 12:00 pm

At least we can agree that Mr. Romney figuratively shot himself in the foot. All we disagree on is which round did the most damage.



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07 Nov 2012, 12:02 pm

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At least we can agree that Mr. Romney figuratively shot himself in the foot. All we disagree on is which round did the most damage.


Romney is and was a schmuck. He gives a definite insight into the goyische kopf.

A little snippet:
More on Pinker: Goyishe Kopf
I somehow forgot this little anecdote that kicked off Steven Pinker's lecture the other night. I don't have the details down exactly, but basically Pinker was talking about his grandfather who owned a garment factory where they made neckties. One day Pinker's father went to visit him and was told he was in a backroom. There Pinker's father saw the grandfather working on fabric with a sewing machine. He asked him what he was doing. He was working on the cut-out remnants of fabric and "if I sew them a certain way I can get a few exta ties out of the lot." Ok, said his father, but why are you doing this rather than one of your workers. The grandfather looked at him, poked a finger to his head, and said "Goyishe Kopf" - Gentile brains!
The story gives a flavor of the kind of audience Pinker was addressing - it's telling that several of the older audience members around me laughed at the "Goyishe Kopf" - they didn't need to wait for the translation. I think part of Pinker's message with the story was to set the table for the audience that the idea of superior Ashkenazi intelligence should be nothing shocking - they all know it already even if they don't admit it.

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07 Nov 2012, 12:05 pm

The election is not over yet . The electoral college will decide who is president.



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07 Nov 2012, 12:05 pm

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The election is not over yet . The electoral college will decide who is president.


I think we know that outcome of that.

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07 Nov 2012, 12:34 pm

If Mitt Romney wants to become president he can launch a peaceful coup and encourage the electoral college to defect.

1. Promise to restore welfare as we once knew it but get the churches involved more.
2. Universal access to healthcare with no death panels.
3. A strong message of peace as an addition to the pro-life movement while also giving women more choices through advancements in technology,.
4 .etc.



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07 Nov 2012, 12:55 pm

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At least we can agree that Mr. Romney figuratively shot himself in the foot. All we disagree on is which round did the most damage.


Not at all, he didnt do a specific wrong. He just got beat by a just as good politician with a winning complexion. Not by someone who would do better than him. I was hoping people would have seen the empty promises already. But hey, they reelected bush too. Goes to show how little people actually seem to think.



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07 Nov 2012, 12:57 pm

MXH wrote:
Fnord wrote:
At least we can agree that Mr. Romney figuratively shot himself in the foot. All we disagree on is which round did the most damage.


Not at all, he didnt do a specific wrong. He just got beat by a just as good politician with a winning complexion. Not by someone who would do better than him. I was hoping people would have seen the empty promises already. But hey, they reelected bush too. Goes to show how little people actually seem to think.


And now the Faithful will have 4 more years of Obama's incompetence.

Come 2016, if I am still alive I will write --- I told you so

I hope we still have a country by then.

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07 Nov 2012, 1:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:
MXH wrote:
Fnord wrote:
At least we can agree that Mr. Romney figuratively shot himself in the foot. All we disagree on is which round did the most damage.


Not at all, he didnt do a specific wrong. He just got beat by a just as good politician with a winning complexion. Not by someone who would do better than him. I was hoping people would have seen the empty promises already. But hey, they reelected bush too. Goes to show how little people actually seem to think.


And now the Faithful will have 4 more years of Obama's incompetence.

Come 2016, if I am still alive I will write --- I told you so

I hope we still have a country by then.

ruveyn


The country will exist. Thankfully past "warmongering" republicans havemaintained a surplus of nuclear devices and an incredibly large military to defend ourselves against another world class war. The question is will we have to use it now.



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07 Nov 2012, 1:24 pm

Romney's Mexican cousins are in mourning

http://news.yahoo.com/romneys-mexican-c ... 17333.html

Too bad his father didn't end up staying there.



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07 Nov 2012, 5:19 pm

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Governor Romney just gave his concession speech.

It's all over except the swearing-in of the winner ... and the swearing of those who supported the loser.



The only thing I like about Romney is how transparent he is with his body language. The man seriously goes through a blitz tantrum and bully body language all at the same time.

Watching him give the concession speech on mute is quite an experience. I suggest you take a look at it. Look at how he pulls his lower lip in at every word. He did the same thing when he was pushed constantly by the GOP candidates and later on others for his tax return files. :twisted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQruYgVP2SY



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08 Nov 2012, 12:28 am

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Once you've declared that 47% of the public doesn't matter to you, your credibility with that 47% is lost.

By my calculations, if he'd had just a few percentage points of those he had alienated, he would have won the election.

He secured his own defeat.


the 47% thing was done all on purpose to rally up the 53% to get this country from the welfare abusing mindset to actually people moving forward and working for their own aspirations. You know, that little thing called the american dream


I don;t see why personal aspirations have to be at odds with social safety netting. There's something called balance. People should be self sufficient, but I don't want to completely do away with welfare either. I think resources should be reallocated if its necessary for an individuals survival, because the law of the jungle isn't all its cracked up to be. We have a rather minimalist welfare system as it is too. You're not living in any lap of luxury if you're on food stamps in America by any means. I'm just happy people aren't starving, and it seems like a reasonable use of tax money to me. I don't want America to turn into some third world country where people are dying of starvation and disease, while a small majority are living in extreme luxury.



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08 Nov 2012, 12:39 am

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I don't want America to turn into some third world country where people are dying of starvation and disease, while a small majority are living in extreme luxury.


Eh/ Um/ Hmm.

Naw, not worth it... Carry on sir. :roll:



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08 Nov 2012, 4:51 pm

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I don't want America to turn into some third world country where people are dying of starvation and disease, while a small majority are living in extreme luxury.


America has a problem of chronic overweight.

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