Can guns be uninvented?

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How would you carry that out?

A central authority would have to enforce this destruction of all guns.

The only way this authority could enforce it would be to use GUNS.

So isnt this idea a contradiction of itsself?

Oh theres that conservative vs liberal dichotomy again. It really grates me.

Cahn we uncreat all gunz, uncreat all peple who no how to creat gunz, and then uncreat evry1 whoos ever used 1 or ever herd of 1 cuss they can perhaps pass on the that such things existed and cood be maid to use in the futur?

Oh it's possible, just as long as you eliminate all humans as well as the guns from existence. How that can be done, I don't quite know, but it is certainly possible.

You'll take my gun...

... when you pry it from my cold, dead paws!

There answer is NO

The designs for guns and the actual parts the comprise them already exist and are widespread. If you could destroy every firearm on Earth, new ones could easily be built. This is a pretty dumb question, Jitro. Try to think more carefully and learn to use Google next time; mmk?

Your opinion is meaningless fantasy.

When a genie is out of the bottle its out of the bottle.

You cant uninvent any technology: washing machines, the printing press, guns, or nuclear power.


You can control guns to a degree. And you can fight for non proliferation of nuclear weapons to stave off the spread of nuclear weapons. But in the long run guns are here to stay, and the whole world is going to have nukes eventually-not tomorrow nor the next day- but someday. Nothing anyone can do about either of those things.

Its a product of technological advance. I don't like guns or violence, but I think that what needs to be worked on is the condition of the human soul, not necessarily environmental factors. Honestly, I wish we could do away with every implement of destruction designed to kill other human beings, every gun tank, sword, bomb, and nuclear weapon owned by civilians or governments, but this is just wishful thinking.

As far as hand gun ownership or military goes, I think its a necessary evil. Once one person buys into the concept, everyone else has to for reasons of self defense. I by know means elevate gun ownership or militarism to the cult status that some people do though. I'm not one of these people that think its some panacea or cure-all for everything.

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Yet another attempt to start a "gunz-r-bad" thread.
Doesn't seem to be working very well otherwise we'd be up to about five pages by now...

You want to change the human "soul". Then figure out a way of changing human DNA.

If you cannot do that, you are doomed to fail.

ruveyn

No form of technology can be uninvented. Knowledge is what underpins the development of any one technology, and knowledge can never be destroyed. All historical attempts to erase knowledge have failed.

Perhaps they can be made obsolete, like the electric chair. The electric chair wasn't uninvented, but it's a thing of the past now. Crucifiction as well for the most part. These things haven't been uninvented, just made obsolete. The problem is that the concepts they carried out still exist. We still have capital punishments in many areas of the world, and it doesn't look to be going away anytime soon.

I wonder if it is worth asking if violence itself will ever become obsolete. It would be nice to hope so.

Dream on. It is wired into our DNA. Perhaps if our dominant ancestor had also be the common ancestor of the Bonobos we would be better primates. Unfortunately we resemble the Chimps more than the Bonobos.

ruveyn

I think biological determinism is a self defeating view. Yes, there's some things we can't change, but there is a lot that we can control or self determine about ourselves, and much of this has to do with how we view the world on a philosophical on constructual level. You can change how you approach life by simply re-evaluating and changing your mind about things. The human tragedy isn't that we are deterministic machines, unable to change ourselves in any way, but that we have the capacity for reason and self improvement, but, by in large, neglect this faculty as a species.

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Then we are defeated because it is a true view. It fits the facts.

What the human race needs are some beneficial mutations. Got any?

ruveyn

You sound like you're bordering on snide insult, which I don't appreciate. Its not true in an absolute sense, and it doesn't fit the facts, just from my own personal experience, as well as the countless experiences of others across the world and across history. We can change ourselves in fundamental ways on an individual level. Individuals ultimately make up the collective of humanity, and to deny that humans are incapable of changing in any way is a serious form of denial and a self limiting view. We can change how we look at ourselves, look at others, and approach life. To deny this is to deny one of the very fundamental things that makes being part of the human experience worth anything.

To think that everything that makes you you, everything good and bad, is due solely to genetics and factors out of your control is, at best, an arrogance on par with the race politics of Nazi Germany, and at worst, an inferiority complex of the most severe kind.