The power of religion

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Nope sorry. Folks who are mad at a particular church they go pick another. They sometimes start their own churches and promise not to act like the meanies who offended them. Or they quit going to church which is the easiest way..or have church in your house. That's how he nice Early Christians did it. Bound to be right. That was back before Popes and assorted other big religious positions got invented. None of that stuff could make a sane person claim to be an atheist. Its a totally outrageous assertion which would need to prove the non-existence of God. Thats a toughie..lol. Somebody who thinks they can do that aint right in the head. Fortunately they are just angry. They will heal..hopefully.

Why the HELL do religious people ALWAYS bring up necrophilia or bestiality? Seriously, do you guys wanna have sex with animals and dead people SO badly, that it's always on your mind, ready to be thrown at an atheist, homosexual, or anyone who doesn't see a problem with homosexuals getting married? Jesus dead buffalo f*****g christ...

Who WOULDN'T get at least a little upset about a god who creates imperfect beings and then punishes them for the way he made them? Your religion makes no goddamn sense. And by the way, why would I or anyone else be mad at god over the death of a loved one? Everybody who's ever lived is now dead or will one day be dead. It's not like that ONE person we cared about is getting a bum deal by being dead. I've only ever lost ONE person I cared about a whole lot to death in my life, and I was an atheist LONG before that ever happened.

Also, you can't be mad at something you don't believe in in the first place... See, I might be mad at god if he'd ever show proof of his existence(because his rules don't make ANY sense), but he hasn't. So either he doesn't care, or he doesn't exist. In any case, I'm told that god is this loving being that cares greatly about all his "children." So since we've already arrived at the conclusion of doesn't care or doesn't exist, and we're told that he DOES care, then he simply doesn't exist. End of story. How about instead of trying to tell us what the hell WE believe, you go have sex with your dead sheep and leave us alone?

The fact of the matter is that there is ZERO evidence for the existence of a judeo-christian god.

...But people who were TOLD they were gonna be atheists can't really be called atheists. I highly doubt Stalin ever actually got them to BELIEVE there wasn't any god. Just because you no longer have your bible, various paintings of jesus, or golden cross hanging on your wall doesn't mean you no longer believe, especially if their removal was dictated by another person.

No, it works the other way around. YOU make the claim that something exists, then the burden of proof is on YOU. Otherwise, you'd be calling yourself a fool for not believing in ANYTHING that ANYONE ELSE claims to exist despite the complete lack of evidence for its existence. If I told you I had an invisible flying unicorn that s**ts poptarts living in my house, is it up to you to disprove its existence, or is it up to me to prove its existence? OR, would you just think I'm nuts? Most likely a combination of the 2nd and 3rd option. And yet, when the tables are turned, you say it's the non-believers who are crazy and need to disprove that which you believe in. You can't have your cake and eat it too, buddy.

I meant Stallin's own atheism. It was atheism (did not believe in god) but it didn't originate from critical thinking.

It is odd the wounds that religion can inflict on a person, and the lasting impressions that even time cannot heal. There are people who are 60 who still complain about yeshiva or catholic school or about their youth in organized religion. The sour taste prevents them from giving it another try with that faith, and I don't blame them. But its something I hope to stay clear of, there will always be an open space in my heart for the Methodist church despite a not so enjoyable experience growing up.

Organized religion (as opposed to personally held faith) is one of the vexations of human existence.

ruveyn

oh, okay... I misunderstood you then, but how do you know that Stalin didn't arrive at the conclusion that there is no god from his own critical thinking?

Because many of his actions imply he was incapable of critical thinking.

Wrong, it hurts the relatives to the corpses that may have emotional attachment to them.

We get to kill animals to eat them, I mean, we do not respect animals' lives at all, so it is inconsistent to have anti bestiality laws. So, I don't think bestiality should be a felony as long as it is done in private. It is surely disgusting, but people like to do plenty of disgusting things.

F*ck you.


You don't get to be agnostic towards specific myths.


What god? Vishnu? Krishna?

My life has been very comfortable to be honest. Before critical thinking started invading my brain like an utter plague, I felt "blessed". I am very lucky. For starters it seems I got the exact set of skills to survive in this world. I got a loving, completely family that gets to be tolerant of my strange personality. A good house for me and no debts . A source of income that allows me to do exactly what I want. I got access to the best food in the world (both my parents are great cooks). Before turning to pantheism and then to atheism. If some sort of god exists, then my first question would be why was I given preferential treatment...

So, please grab a new hypothesis.

The sickening vile purveyed by the religious to the none-believer only serves to highlight their intolerances. Yet when at the pullpit they preach tolerance yet have no understanding of its meaning.

"Tolerance - a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry."

I tolerate all but religion for they tolerate no-one but their own cast.

Ask a soldier. There are no atheists in Foxholes.

Yes there are.

Have you asked enough soldiers?

Cant be. Since real atheists do not exist, how could they wind up in a Foxhole? The Athiest must proclaim not only that God does not exist but cannot exist...which then brings us back to square one which is..Could there exist a force in the universe of which you are unaware? Anybody who answers that one No..is either crazy or lying. Now could a soldier be mad at God about something and attempt to punish Him by denying His Existence even while bullets are whizzing overhead? Sure. Just like the psudo atheists who hang out at this place and other self proclaimed atheists in the world. They are just having a little ongoing temper tantrum.

The Creation we see around us is the proof. If a person can't see the Hand of the Creator..they are without excuse.

Romans 1: 20-28

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

My atheist standard is there is no evidence for a god, so I assume there isn't one. Those of you religious nutjobs that keep quoting the other terrible atheists like Stalin & Kim Jong Il freely admit (when it suits) that there are indeed atheists in foxholes, communist atheists at that....

Put some though at least to you rebuttals.....