Papa John's and Obamacare
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that sounds like a caddilac plan, something like regence blue cross/shield. my catastrophic-only [no Rx] group health costs me $230 per month [$10,000 deductible], which is half the price of the group health standard plan i had before but had to drop when my income dropped. but i have to pay for just about everything out of pocket [@$500 per office visit unless i drive to the next county over] which means i just stay sick at home until it becomes an emergency.
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I think he can afford to offer his employees decent pay and health insurance paid for OUT OF THE PROFIT his company earns from their hard work.
I smell the whiff of racism ..... and selfish greed in his opposition to the Affordable Care Act (known as Obamacare).
almost nobody gets that high without having cut moral or ethical corners someplace.
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And my premium would be cheaper if I did not have to carry deadbeats like Papa John!
Where do you get insurance for less than $100 a month? I'm looking at $804.30 a month just for myself.
I'm buying it through my student's association (United HC). I have a fairly high deductable $2500.00, but I get free office visits and stuff at the med school. I get cheap meds too.
Just wait 'til the Federal exchange is set up. You should get much cheaper rates.
I went back to school in the 1990s to work on my doctorate. The best thing about that was that I was paying for medical insurance like I was an 18 year old. I don't think I'd characterize that as Obamacare.
One of my brothers was paying $15,000 a year for medical insurance. I convinced him to go back to college. He signed up for a couple of courses on-line to qualify for insurance and dropped his insurance to about $1,200 a year at the time. Since then, they have drastically cut benefits and raised the premiums to the point that it isn't worth it or I'd go take classes again.
Well, yeah.... I think they pool all the students and university employees, so it's a good deal... I think the family plan is $3200.00--still much better than $800month.
But It is exactly Obamacare. They had to enhance the benefits to comply with the law this year. I'm still getting a good deal. I've seen my doc 3 times, an orthopedic surgeon, had tons of x-rays and blood work... and I've paid nothing but my premium.
Obamacare is your friend.... honest!
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My family and I head about the support Papa John's day and we decided it was a good night for pizza. Health insurance costs will be unpredictable, and for many businesses, they will triple per employee. I honestly don't know how they came up with 14 cents per pizza. The way I'm calculating that price increase, each store location would have to sell 715 pizzas per employee per month to cover even a very modest $100/mo. insurance bill. I suppose that possible to do... if you have lots of frat/sorority houses in your area and ninja turtles in your neighborhood sewer system.
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^^^ Denial ain't a river in Egypt.
You guys need to wake up and smell the injustice. 10-14 cents per pizza, with a total cost of $5-8 million annually came from Papa John's own accountants!! !! !!
The relatively petty amounts here serve to illustrate just how indefensible and immoral the Right's position is with regards to healthcare.
This greedy tool is sitting on a $240 million in his bank account. He could personally buy insurance for his employees for the NEXT 40 YEARS!
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I hope you enjoyed that pizza... Made by a food service worker with no access to healthcare and a gooey, persistent cough, or maybe hepatitis. Let's hope you did not get anything extra on that pizza.
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This greedy tool is sitting on a $240 million in his bank account. He could personally buy insurance for his employees for the NEXT 40 YEARS!
Why should he?
ruveyn
What he should do is tack 15cents on to each of his pizzas to provide health coverage for his employees (because it is the law and the moral thing to do) and keep his greedy, stupid mouth shut.
I guarantee you, all this ill-will is going to cost him more.
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I think that the CEOs who say they're going to fire their employees because Obama got elected are just pissed because their candidate didn't win. Or who fired their employees are trying to make Obama look bad. All they're doing is making asses of themselves.
I just thought of something. We should use a different word during presidential elections, because "candidate" has "candid" in it. Lawl,. we wish.
All I see here is a bunch of people that blindly believe that businessmen are evil, and really don't care if there evidence to the contrary.
Fact of the matter is if you look at the case that the Papa John's ceo and others are making, they are right, and you guys are supporting a man whose policies are killing jobs left and right.
They don't take in enough money to afford the cost of Obamacare, it's basic math. This is what you get when you have government taking over healthcare and they pass something without bothering to read it.
Capitalism has done far more to reduce poverty than anything else ever. What we call poverty today would have been considered a wonderful life if Capitalism had never existed.
Unless you are willing to endure this new-and-improved form of poverty, you've got no basis to tell anyone else how "wonderful" it is.
Fact of the matter is if you look at the case that the Papa John's ceo and others are making, they are right, and you guys are supporting a man whose policies are killing jobs left and right.
They don't take in enough money to afford the cost of Obamacare, it's basic math. This is what you get when you have government taking over healthcare and they pass something without bothering to read it.
How is it "killing jobs"? If a pizza shop is profitable even with the extra cost of health care, is the company going to seek to close stores, or open more of them? Hint: they're in business to make money, and the more profitable stores they have, the more money they'll make.
The only way it will cost jobs is if the company can figure out how to maintain its level of service, quality, and its ability to produce and sell enough pizzas to meet demand with fewer employees - something that they should be trying to do anyways for the sake of their almighty profit.
This greedy tool is sitting on a $240 million in his bank account. He could personally buy insurance for his employees for the NEXT 40 YEARS!
Why should he?
ruveyn
I know you're asking why he should pay for his employees health care coverage, but the better question is why should he be allowed to have $240 million in his bank account? What could he have possibly done to justify our country to allow him to live in such luxury when there are millions of people living at or near poverty levels in this country? Please don't tell me its because he's created a few thousand pizza delivery jobs that don't pay a living wage and don't provide health care.
Fact of the matter is if you look at the case that the Papa John's ceo and others are making, they are right, and you guys are supporting a man whose policies are killing jobs left and right.
They don't take in enough money to afford the cost of Obamacare, it's basic math. This is what you get when you have government taking over healthcare and they pass something without bothering to read it.
How is it "killing jobs"? If a pizza shop is profitable even with the extra cost of health care, is the company going to seek to close stores, or open more of them? Hint: they're in business to make money, and the more profitable stores they have, the more money they'll make.
The ingredients don't show up due to a magic ingredient fairy, they cost money to buy. With gasoline prices going up the cost to get said ingredients go up. That's one variable that a lot of you don't seem to understand.
No, that's not the only way a company can go out of business. Taxes can actually cause a business to go under, so can tons of new regulations.
Fact of the matter is, and my dad used to manage restaurants which is why I know this, is that even with many high-end restaurants the final net profit is a lot less than what people here realize.
The Papa John's ceo isn't saying what he is saying to be mean, he's saying it because it's the truth and he's scared to death for his company's future.
A lot of you have bought into the narrative that everything that is going wrong in your life (or a lot of it anyways), is due to "greedy rich people," politicians like to do this in order to distract people from whom is actually responsible (which is the politicians due to their bad policies). In this case though, I think the bad economy is deliberate, because politicians want people to be dependent on government so as to secure a voting base in order to continue to win elections.
I've already boycotted Papa John's Pizza for it's racist hiring practices and the way their counter workers treat people of other races.
It's been 7 years since, and the Papa John's store down the street finally closed.
I wish I could take the credit, but you simply can not run a business with racist policies and behavior in an ethnically-mixed neighborhood.
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