Christopher Dorner, folk hero

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You mean, they would not allow him to expose the truth that a female officer used excessive force on a mentally ill man.

They said the police are not allowed to lie and as they weren't 100% sure it was true then he must have lied, so therefore they were right to sack him yet do they sack cops who lie when they give people tickets or accuse them of assault? No! They never ever do this! It's only wrong to lie when accusing a cop of wrongdoing. Sacking someone over this sends what kind of message when you think you see something wrong. You report it, and if you can't prove it 100% it's over. So the message is don't report it. Omerta.

Unfortunately, he sent the evidence that he said would free him to CNN. Who then in turn sent it to the LAPD. Should have uploaded it to YouTube and LiveLeak.

Media and government collude always. They all colluded to hide the existence of the drone base in Saudi Arabia for years just because the White House wanted it that way.

As bad as it was that the government was so flippant about the child's death, the fact remains that the government hadn't set out to kill the boy. Dorner, on the other hand, had made it explicitly clear that he was targeting LAPD families. Beside, what does one have to do with the other?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

A little tidbit, cops ARE allowed to lie unless speaking under oath. They're allowed to lie in the course of duty. IE, a cop can tell you "Hey man, if you give up your drugs I'll just confiscate it and I won't arrest you, if you make me search and I find something, then I'll arrest you." Of course then after you give them said drugs, they can arrest you. It's only in court/statements to the court they're not allowed to lie, as then it's perjury.

So yeah, it's a lie they're not allowed to lie.

Anyway, cops can pretty much do whatever they want. Personally I think a big reason American cops are so... the way they are, is rampant steroid abuse. The FBI did a report on this actually. It helps exacerbate issues of aggression, etc. Now that I've learned some signs (mostly attitude/body language) they tend to display, I pretty much assume any "jacked" cop is juicing to the gills. Thus the aggressive impulsiveness prevalent in a lot of cops I see.

Anyway, I think cops are usually right near a 40/40/20 split. 40% are legitimately nice people who wish to others. 40% have power issues/like controlling people. 20% got the job because they figured it'd be better than doing something else and don't really care at all about anything. Of course there's overlap, but in the cops I met, I see basically those camps.

As I said, they justified sacking this person on the grounds that he supposedly lied about a police abusing someone. Now the police often lie in their reports about assaults and tickets and the like, and they're never sacked for that. It's a bad joke. The thing is, they want to get rid of people who don't uphold the code of silence and that's the bottom line.

(The latest.)

Shouldn't have burnt the house with him in it down (also, there were reports of a possible hostage). Bad, bad move.

Should have done it the proper way, with return fire when you're being actively shot at. If the officers on the scene can't handle it, that's what SWAT are for; the officers can surround it and make sure he doesn't escape till they arrive (they supposedly had him surrounded too, so no need to burn him out -- just wait till SWAT are there -- if he comes out shooting, shoot back!).

He wasn't armed any better than they were, and it was just a single man (all were toting long arms of similar capabilities).

Burning houses down doesn't equal self-defense, and having him contained means he's no longer a threat to the public.

(Sadly, he may just be made into a folk hero. He's a murdering narcissist who doesn't deserve such.)

They sure do love burning people to death. I'm sure they'll be declaring that Dorner was the one to set the fire.

He executed a young woman in a parking lot.

He might be a "volks" hero but not a folk hero.

A massive public outcry will lead to an FBI probe that will get so deep it will find Christmas presents,

Even if the police did, it's sort of hard to feel sorry for him.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I don't think that's what he wanted... when you go this route you aren't looking for pity.

Really? Because he seemed pretty self-pitying to me.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Seemed to have been launched smoke incendiaries that burnt the place down; lots of evidence pointing to that (radio chatter saying that's what they were doing, saying about wanting to burn it down, and all that).

Don't feel sorry for him at all, of course. It's just that it's hard to tell if someone is/was waving the white flag when the house is burnt/burning to the ground, not to mention if the firing from the cabin ceased.

They had mentioned on CNN that he had tried running out the back door, but that the police had opened fire, and sent him back inside.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer