St. Malachy Prophecy

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I wouldn't disagree with you at all. I started a thread on the topic - ie. 4th beast Roman Empire, 5th beast - includes Rome as well as other external powers in a completely different kind of situation (which is yet to come - some would say imminently).

I could shine some possible light for you, but it will be off-topic. Can I PM you?

Yeah, that's fine.

You have to remember also that prophecy didn't end at the collation of the bible by Irenaeus.


The danger of the vaguery here is we've had this all over the last 2000 years, all over pretty much any time before that as well depending on which kingdom and which public policy. That could be said of some places today, the only thing particularly new for us is the technology we employee with it.

Really? Two hours for a youtube video, have you even watched it?

I knew it wouldn't be too long before someone posted Malachy's list of popes prophecy. People do love their end of time prophecies, regardless of how many previous ones turned out false. There will be many more popes after this next one. (that's my prediction).

It is all true, and The Father of economics, socialology, and more, Ibn Khaldun, wrote it down in 1300, the history of all governments before his time, fit a single pattern, they all fall the same way.

It is as the Bible says, men become lovers of themselves, debase the coins, charge for justice, use false measures, and taxes go up to pay for men with clubs to enforce evil.

"Money and talent will move toward freedom." The old suddenly has no one to tax, the men with clubs loot the rulers, all is abandoned, then hearty nomads come and take over, bringing fine coin, honest measure, set up a judge in the market place to provide justice today, have low taxes, and traders flock to their market.

Khaldun put it at between three and seven generations before the old corrupt ways return, and he points out the decline is never reversed, and the final end comes quickly after the economic peak.

A hundred to two hundred and fifty years of wealth, and abandoned ten years later.

End times have high taxes to support defense of unjust systems, and it is time to move toward freedom.

This is the short human cycle, it has continued since Khaldun.

There is another, geology, as the old testament says, a piller of smoke by day and fire by night, and in 1543 BC, the volcano Thera on the island Santoreni blew, which would have been visable for Exodus, same date. The blast caused a wave 600 foot high, the lower Nile was destroyed, all the coastal cities, and moving to the hills was a good idea.

The Sryian coast got six foot of ash, as did Turkey, and it was a wrath of god time. It could be seen as a good thing, if the people killed were your enemies.

Older cultures also had their "And then everything just blew up!" records.

Off New Zealand there is a large crater, which dates to 1490, meteor, and there were no survivors. Big flood.

26,000 years ago a mile wide crater in Mauitania, kicked up so much ash it caused the last ice age.

40,000 years ago Campi Felegri, a caldera in Italy, covered southern Europe in ash, and ended a 125,000 year ice age.

52,000 years ago Barringer in Arizona, another in India.

As far as I can tell, the sky gods are at war with the underground gods, and we are in the middle. The ocean god just killed 250,000 in southeast Asia. Russia just got a, Repent, The End is Near, air burst. God hates windows.

The best idea seems to be hold an end of the world party, sooner or later you will be right.

In the mean time, sound money, honest weights, quick justice, low taxes, will keep the party going. It is the only thing we can do, it does get prayers answered.

I don't necessarily see that the ending of the Catholic Church should be meaningful or meaningless. I have my opinion on this but its not what interests me about the St. Malachy prophecies. The interesting part for me are the uncanny coincidences and/or accuracies of prophecy. Whether these are divinely or demonically inspired or if there is a concerted effort on the part of the people involved to enact the prophecies, it is all undeniably interesting.

If you read the prophecies, the end result would be cataclysmic and would make all questions about unpleasant future extremists somewhat incidental.

Not twisting any arms just offering it for available info. Also yes, have watched that and read Tom Horn's 'Forbidden Gates'. Despite the seeming wonkiness of the topics he and Christ Putnam have received a great deal of scholarship credit for their work on Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope Is Here. Exo-Vaticana looks like it may receive similar critical acclaim.

Exovaticana?

Maybe the next pope with be Gray space alien. He'll probably more in touch with the needs terrestrial catholics than previous pope was!

More frightening - it sounds like the Jesuits are quite serious.

But yeah, Galgamek Catholics just as advertised on South Park! Scary stuff when real life begins to imitate satire.

Fascinating. Pope Francis I. Jesuit. First non-European pope, from South America but of Italian parents. Certainly is a 'peoples pope'. I can see that his Italian lineage (which is a divergence from the Spanish/Portuguese colonial links of South America) could be a fulfillment of the '... the Roman' aspect of St. Malachy prophecy. The part where this pope will provide great succour to the flock is certainly in the character of Pope Francis I, considering his character and his track record working in the slums of Buenos Aires.

The 'Peter' aspect of Petrus Romanus is not quite so clear. I have seen some rather obtuse notions on Youtube about his father having been Piedro and one really way off notion that one of the founders (Pedro de Mendoza) of Buenos Aires has a name that references Peter and a Cold Stone. A little over-reaching to say 'wow' I reckon.

An interesting notion rumbling around in Youtube and blog-universe is the notion of a Black Pope mixed in with ideas that Petrus Romanus would be black (as in African). Some appear to think that Nostradamus prophesied about a Black Pope. I don't see any factual evidence that this is the case. Having said that, Pope Francis is Jesuit and the Jesuit order wear black uniforms and the head of the order is often referred to (derogatorily) as the 'Black Pope'.

I can agree with the Italian descent of Pope Francis I qualifying him as 'Roman', I don't see any obvious connection to Peter and I do see that he is likely to be a very people-oriented pope fulfilling the 'succour' or 'pastoral' aspect of the prophecies.

What do you all think?

TBH I don't think any pope could call themselves Peter II and get anything done. With the Malachi prophecy that was probably also a bit of an indirect vote against any 'Peter's including Bertoni, Turkson, the Hungarian guy, 'Pedro' of Sao Paulo, etc. - I mean I don't think the last part was super-substantial in decision making, just that I think it played a role in their selection (or avoidance) like anything else. Like any organization I'm sure they prefer function over easily avoidable dysfunction and scandal.

He seems to be quite a witty guy, even got busted for calling the Vatican directory which they assumed was a prank. Suffice to say we'll get to know him over the next few years. The Malachi prophecy seems like it could mean anything regarding the quality of pope he'll be. We'll just have to see what happens in the next few years, ie. if the global plot gets all kinds of strange and how he'll deal with it. I'm still waiting for Exo-Vaticana to come out to see what these Jesuits at the Vatican Observatory are rattling on about.

Khaldun was square on the mark. Three generations or so, and it all turns to sh*t. And that is one of the reasons why the U.S is in such sad condition.

ruveyn

Sounds nearly identical to the flu dream we call the Book of Judges where that happens over, and over, and over, and over and the nightmare just won't end.

The End Times were supposed to happen by 2000 AD.
The Mayan Long Count calendar had us in 'no time' after that.
The Long Count calendar now starts again ( as of Dec. 21 2012. )
We are in a new cycle now. A better one.